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Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:59 pm
by DCHawk1
jfish26 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:17 pm I tend to agree with this. I would agree with it in even more cases if Congress hadn’t set up its own rules in such a way as to not just enable but encourage bad-faith inaction.
Define good-faith vs. bad-faith inaction for me. Like I'm 8.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:34 pm
by jfish26
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:59 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:17 pm I tend to agree with this. I would agree with it in even more cases if Congress hadn’t set up its own rules in such a way as to not just enable but encourage bad-faith inaction.
Define good-faith vs. bad-faith inaction for me. Like I'm 8.
Are you an 8-year-old who is familiar with Potter Stewart?

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:16 pm
by Sparko
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:56 pm
zsn wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:53 pm There wouldn’t be anyone at all to pick the lettuce. And the strawberries, cauliflower, cabbage, tomatoes and corn.
God, I love this response.

"We need more poors to get me my food!"

I mean...do you even hear yourself?
The western economies thrive on upward mobility and a substantial workforce

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:17 pm
by Sparko
jfish26 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:34 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:59 pm
jfish26 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:17 pm I tend to agree with this. I would agree with it in even more cases if Congress hadn’t set up its own rules in such a way as to not just enable but encourage bad-faith inaction.
Define good-faith vs. bad-faith inaction for me. Like I'm 8.
Are you an 8-year-old who is familiar with Potter Stewart?
I need to use the blue slip explanation hold here.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:47 pm
by DCHawk1
Sparko wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:16 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:56 pm
zsn wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:53 pm There wouldn’t be anyone at all to pick the lettuce. And the strawberries, cauliflower, cabbage, tomatoes and corn.
God, I love this response.

"We need more poors to get me my food!"

I mean...do you even hear yourself?
The western economies thrive on upward mobility and a substantial workforce
Never mind.

That was overly unkind.

Carry on.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:49 pm
by DCHawk1
WeRkErS oF tHe WeRlD, geEt Me ChEaP aRuGuLa!

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:18 pm
by zsn
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:56 pm
zsn wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:53 pm There wouldn’t be anyone at all to pick the lettuce. And the strawberries, cauliflower, cabbage, tomatoes and corn.
God, I love this response.

"We need more poors to get me my food!"

I mean...do you even hear yourself?
Where do you get that from my response? If you’re serious about controlling the prevalence of undocumented workers being employed enforce the law (already on the books) by SEVERELY punishing employers. Let’s see how quickly they cry “Uncle!!!” Talk about supply and demand!

I was somewhat sarcastically responding to dolomite’s last sentence. Read the two posts together. Observing what is doesn’t necessarily mean that is what I want.

FTR, what I would like to see is an unskilled worker visa system and meaningful fines and jail time for employers who break the law.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:23 pm
by KUTradition
The new sweeping immigration legislation, signed into law by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in May of 2022, prohibits anyone from transporting illegal immigrants into the state.

Among other restrictions, the law imposes penalties on Florida businesses that hire undocumented immigrants, and requires a citizenship question on patient forms for hospitals that accept Medicare. Under the law, Florida also no longer recognizes drivers' licenses issued to undocumented immigrants from other states.

"This is the strongest legislation against illegal immigration anywhere in the country," DeSantis said at the time of the signing.

But after Hurricane Idalia devastated parts of the state in August, some businesses say the law created a worker shortage, slowing Florida's recovery.

Rogelio Rauda, an undocumented worker from Honduras doing construction in Crystal River, Florida, says only eight workers he knows came to the disaster zone out of the hundreds he says typically show up…


our society has grown accustomed to and, really, dependent upon this source of labor…right or wrong

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:57 pm
by Overlander
KUTradition wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:23 pm The new sweeping immigration legislation, signed into law by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in May of 2022, prohibits anyone from transporting illegal immigrants into the state.

Among other restrictions, the law imposes penalties on Florida businesses that hire undocumented immigrants, and requires a citizenship question on patient forms for hospitals that accept Medicare. Under the law, Florida also no longer recognizes drivers' licenses issued to undocumented immigrants from other states.

"This is the strongest legislation against illegal immigration anywhere in the country," DeSantis said at the time of the signing.

But after Hurricane Idalia devastated parts of the state in August, some businesses say the law created a worker shortage, slowing Florida's recovery.

Rogelio Rauda, an undocumented worker from Honduras doing construction in Crystal River, Florida, says only eight workers he knows came to the disaster zone out of the hundreds he says typically show up…


our society has grown accustomed to and, really, dependent upon this source of labor…right or wrong
Yep.

“My beans cost 100% more than they did 2 years ago!”

Yeah, to get them cheaper, you’re gonna have to pick ‘em yourself.

“Fuck that shit!”

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:59 pm
by Shirley
dolomite wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:34 pm The U.S. should block all illegals from coming across the Mexican border. It’s getting beyond ridiculous, (what with the rise in murders, rapes, Fentanyl overdoses, and don’t tell me there wouldn’t be anyone at all to do the lettuce picking.
Really? This strikes me as very naive.

#very

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:13 pm
by Overlander
Shirley wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:59 pm
dolomite wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:34 pm The U.S. should block all illegals from coming across the Mexican border. It’s getting beyond ridiculous, (what with the rise in murders, rapes, Fentanyl overdoses, and don’t tell me there wouldn’t be anyone at all to do the lettuce picking.
Really? This strikes me as very naive.

#very
Yeah, I would be interested to hear what the alternative plan is to do the tough work.

Farm harvest work in particular.

And explain the cost savings in the plan…..

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:55 pm
by DCHawk1
So...to clarify, you all stand firmly and definitively in opposition to policies that would greatly inflate the costs of planting, growing, and distributing food crops?

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:18 pm
by Overlander
DCHawk1 wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:55 pm So...to clarify, you all stand firmly and definitively in opposition to policies that would greatly inflate the costs of planting, growing, and distributing food crops?
Not at all. I hope to soon pay triple what I am currently paying at the grocery store.

I hope the next Texas hail storm damage to my roof can take 3 months to complete, and shoddy work to be the result.

‘Merica First!

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:25 am
by TDub
Overlander wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:57 pm
KUTradition wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:23 pm The new sweeping immigration legislation, signed into law by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in May of 2022, prohibits anyone from transporting illegal immigrants into the state.

Among other restrictions, the law imposes penalties on Florida businesses that hire undocumented immigrants, and requires a citizenship question on patient forms for hospitals that accept Medicare. Under the law, Florida also no longer recognizes drivers' licenses issued to undocumented immigrants from other states.

"This is the strongest legislation against illegal immigration anywhere in the country," DeSantis said at the time of the signing.

But after Hurricane Idalia devastated parts of the state in August, some businesses say the law created a worker shortage, slowing Florida's recovery.

Rogelio Rauda, an undocumented worker from Honduras doing construction in Crystal River, Florida, says only eight workers he knows came to the disaster zone out of the hundreds he says typically show up…


our society has grown accustomed to and, really, dependent upon this source of labor…right or wrong
Yep.

“My beans cost 100% more than they did 2 years ago!”

Yeah, to get them cheaper, you’re gonna have to pick ‘em yourself.

“Fuck that shit!”
tell me where, ill pick all the beans I need.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:11 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Speaking of beans, money, and Joey B.....
Uncle Joe probably gets confused between the differences of a coffee bean and a jelly bean, the differences between Kamala Harris and Dajuan Harris, and the differences between the NBA and the NRA, but he does know Corn Pop was a bad dude, he knows if Charlamagne can't decide who to vote for between him and Trump than Charlamagne ain't Black, and he knows the little girl he sniffed in the Oval Office last night used Johnson's No More Tears shampoo and didn't kick him in the balls for touching her.
So hey, we (you, I, all Americans, and Joey Old Balls) got that going for us. All that and according to Gallup polls.... His 41% approval rating (not good), a -21 economic confidence index (not good), and 45% of Americans worse off financially than they were a year ago (not good - and frankly, I really don't understand that).
Don't get me wrong, I'm not voting for Trump in November but as of right now, I'm not planning on voting for Joey either. Why would/should I? Other than he's not Trump.

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:16 am
by KUTradition
i’ll take an 81 year old who’s heart is in the right place over the guy with 91 felonies (among other things), thanks

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:26 am
by randylahey
That's all the election is. People who see how corrupt our government has become vs people who beleive what the media tells them

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:29 am
by randylahey
KUTradition wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:16 am i’ll take an 81 year old who’s heart is in the right place over the guy with 91 felonies (among other things), thanks
Do you ever find it odd that he never had a single bit of legal trouble until he got into politics and began speaking out against the deep state

Jfk was also alive before he began talking about dismantling the CIA

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:35 am
by KUTradition
thats a lie

what is wrong with you?

Re: Uncle Joe

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:35 am
by KUTradition
i thought you were done with the poli board?

just more lies, i guess