zsn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:54 am
One telling dynamic was on display during the debate yesterday which I didn’t see too many people pick up on. Kamala referred to her running mate as “Joe” throughout the debate. Pence referred to his running mate as “President Trump”. One would think that by now they would have a certain level of familiarity, after four+ years together.
That’s what Trump wants. That authoritarian type of title that those around him say President all the time.
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:11 am
by Deleted User 318
I know it means nothing, but love this poleing coming from across the pond
zsn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:54 am
One telling dynamic was on display during the debate yesterday which I didn’t see too many people pick up on. Kamala referred to her running mate as “Joe” throughout the debate. Pence referred to his running mate as “President Trump”. One would think that by now they would have a certain level of familiarity, after four+ years together.
That’s what Trump wants. That authoritarian type of title that those around him say President all the time.
Come on man!
Biden regularly refers to Obama as President Obama. And they are close friends.
zsn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:54 am
One telling dynamic was on display during the debate yesterday which I didn’t see too many people pick up on. Kamala referred to her running mate as “Joe” throughout the debate. Pence referred to his running mate as “President Trump”. One would think that by now they would have a certain level of familiarity, after four+ years together.
That’s what Trump wants. That authoritarian type of title that those around him say President all the time.
This is correct. The president themselves dictate how they are to be addressed. Some are formal, and want only Mr. XXXX, President XXXX, or in Obama's case, liked "POTUS" (not said out loud, but actually Poh-Dus). Some want to be less formal, and will allow you to address them by first name.
Just like some bosses want to be Mr. XXX or Mrs. XXX, while other insist you call them by their first names. I would hate my employees to call me by Mr. XXX, and prefer my first name when talking to them. But likewise, I always call people Mrs. XXX until she tells me to call her by her first name.
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:30 am
by Deleted User 89
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:08 am
Meh, that is a respect thing. Harris also refused to refer to him as President Trump iirc, she just called/calls him Donald Trump.
A few months ago Harris was ripping Biden apart. So i don't buy that they are super close friends all of a sudden. He knew he had to pick a black woman as his running mate and she was about the most high profile person that made sense.
it’s a Harris thing
she told the moderator to just call her Kamala
i think it says a ton about her character that she prefers first names, and doesn’t try to distinguish herself by “forcing” people to use titles
1) it shows she is secure with herself, and 2) that she’s just a normal, approachable person
Exactly why i hate the media....the "very fine people on both sides" thing always gives me an eye roll.
Biden has some cringeworthy sound bites for sure.
I know you're a sincere, open-minded person. I wish I could say the same of others on here.
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:43 am
by ousdahl
I may have missed it the past couple days, but did we discuss how the New England journal of medicine came out against a candidate for the first time in its bajillion year history?
zsn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:54 am
One telling dynamic was on display during the debate yesterday which I didn’t see too many people pick up on. Kamala referred to her running mate as “Joe” throughout the debate. Pence referred to his running mate as “President Trump”. One would think that by now they would have a certain level of familiarity, after four+ years together.
That’s what Trump wants. That authoritarian type of title that those around him say President all the time.
Oh jeebers.
Jed Bartlett and Leo mcgary were the best of friends. Leo never referred to Jed as anything other than mr president or president Bartlett when in public or in the whitehouse.
Oh jeebers is all I can say about that rubbish above.
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:55 am
by Deleted User 89
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:43 am
I may have missed it the past couple days, but did we discuss how the New England journal of medicine came out against a candidate for the first time in its bajillion year history?
i saw that last night
this presidency has definitely broken the mould on a number of fronts...most of which aren’t a good thing
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 11:56 am
by Deleted User 318
Debate-gate. If I were Biden, I show up in Miami next Thursday, do my thing, then if Trump meets COVID protocol, meet in person for third debate. No reason for him to bend to Trump here.
zsn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:54 am
One telling dynamic was on display during the debate yesterday which I didn’t see too many people pick up on. Kamala referred to her running mate as “Joe” throughout the debate. Pence referred to his running mate as “President Trump”. One would think that by now they would have a certain level of familiarity, after four+ years together.
That’s what Trump wants. That authoritarian type of title that those around him say President all the time.
Oh jeebers.
Jed Bartlett and Leo mcgary were the best of friends. Leo never referred to Jed as anything other than mr president or president Bartlett when in public or in the whitehouse.
Oh jeebers is all I can say about that rubbish above.
Who? Did I miss something?
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:17 pm
by Walrus
If they can't do it in person, just cancel it. No one wants a debate on Zoom.
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:19 pm
by ousdahl
...with the only reason being, Zoom calls can be muted, thus thwarting Trump’s only debate strategy of, “keep interrupting...”
zsn wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:54 am
One telling dynamic was on display during the debate yesterday which I didn’t see too many people pick up on. Kamala referred to her running mate as “Joe” throughout the debate. Pence referred to his running mate as “President Trump”. One would think that by now they would have a certain level of familiarity, after four+ years together.
That’s what Trump wants. That authoritarian type of title that those around him say President all the time.
Oh jeebers.
Jed Bartlett and Leo mcgary were the best of friends. Leo never referred to Jed as anything other than mr president or president Bartlett when in public or in the whitehouse.
Oh jeebers is all I can say about that rubbish above.
You're talking about West Wing!? West Wing..... Jeebus
Here's my thing. It's one thing to say the President and I have said this, or the President's belief is...
But he says President Trump so much that it's quite strange. It's clear he's trying to please one person and one person only.
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:20 pm
by ousdahl
Excuse me, that’s not the only reason.
There’s also the issue of not wanting to be within physical proximity of a covid patient.
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:22 pm
by NewtonHawk11
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:19 pm
...with the only reason being, Zoom calls can be muted, thus thwarting Trump’s only debate strategy of, “keep interrupting...”
Not going to lie, I had that thought too. The ability to mute him by moderators would be quite hilarious. He might quit if he does have the debate virtually and they keep muting him. He would throw a fit and likely completely leave and the people would see the real man that sends out rage tweets in his underwear while eating like shit from his separate bedroom and separate floor than what the rest of his family is on.
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:23 pm
by Deleted User 89
trump and pence (and meadows) fucked up
why should biden and everyone else bend to their whim, just because they’re incompetent?
Re: who ya got?
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:24 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Trump needs these debates far more than Biden. Trump needs to figure it out because he screwed up, got infected, all during election time. He should now live with those consequences.
