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Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:00 am
by jfish26
japhy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:54 am
Putin and trumpty dumpty have been working on this for a decade. It is a defensive weapon they will deploy to blow up hurricanes, and of course Nazis.
Not the Nazis that support them, just the bad Nazis.
That tricksy MIC - always pushing for a complex, nuclear, space-based solution to a problem that can be solved with a $1.99 Sharpie.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:05 am
by KUTradition
dammit, fish…bear me to the punch with the sharpie jab
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:48 am
by ousdahl
japhy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:54 am
Putin and trumpty dumpty have been working on this for a decade. It is a defensive weapon they will deploy to blow up hurricanes, and of course Nazis.
Not the Nazis that support them, just the bad Nazis.
All Nazis are bad Nazis.
Or if you really wanna go full Qusdahl, the expression goes something like, “the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.”
That gaping plot hole in Inglorious Basterds comes to mind, when the Basterds deal with the Nazis by killing and scalping them, instead of just like, you know,
voting blue
Besides, I’m a nice enough fool to think maybe even someone as vile as a Nazi can some day change, especially if we get the hot springs thread involved.
I digress…
Where are these updates about the national security threat! The suspense is too much! Cuz these threats are so serious! Like super serious! So super duper serious our government can’t even tell them wut the threats is! Stay tuned, proud American patriots!
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:57 am
by DeletedUser
What kind of updates are you expecting?
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:29 pm
by KUTradition
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:57 am
What kind of updates are you expecting?
he doesn’t know
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:56 pm
by TDub
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:57 am
What kind of updates are you expecting?
a daily tik tok update condensed into 30 seconds from some fake hippy chick from California outta do the trick.
I mean, the guy references inglorious bastards and wants to be taken seriously, I mean....comeon.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:00 pm
by DeletedUser
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:56 pm
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:57 am
What kind of updates are you expecting?
a daily tik tok update condensed into 30 seconds from some fake hippy chick from California outta do the trick.
I mean, the guy references inglorious bastards and wants to be taken seriously, I mean....comeon.
You mean that movie wasn't a documentary?
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:01 pm
by TDub
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:00 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:56 pm
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:57 am
What kind of updates are you expecting?
a daily tik tok update condensed into 30 seconds from some fake hippy chick from California outta do the trick.
I mean, the guy references inglorious bastards and wants to be taken seriously, I mean....comeon.
You mean that movie wasn't a documentary?
almost
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:40 pm
by ousdahl
You guys realize the ones posting serious percolating speculation from social media here is not me, right?
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:41 pm
by TDub
the lack of self awareness is fucking shocking.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:45 pm
by ousdahl
What self awareness would you like?
Am I still not searching for enough speculation on twitter and tik tok for you?
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:46 pm
by ousdahl
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:29 pm
DeletedUser wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:57 am
What kind of updates are you expecting?
he doesn’t know
You realize I’m mocking the flimsy ass “threats” our government is once again trying to peddle to us, and the mericans who are once again clutching pearls about it…right?
It’s almost as if we still haven’t learned one god damn thing from WMDs in Iraq huh.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:48 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:45 pm
What self awareness would you like?
Am I still not searching for enough speculation on twitter and tik tok for you?
none, you've done enough for a decade. I need nothing further from you. You've proved over and over that you're a numbnuts.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:34 pm
by KUTradition
The national security spokesperson, John Kirby, would not directly confirm or deny reports that the new Russian weapon was nuclear, but he did say it was “space-based” and that it violated the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, which prohibits the deployment in space of nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction.
Kirby was briefing reporters at the White House amid a wave of speculation following cryptic comments about the new threat by the Republican chair of the House intelligence committee, Mike Turner.
nbd
i’m sure we can totally trust vlad, despite all of the international treaties and agreements he’s reneged on
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:36 pm
by Sparko
Chilling.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:39 pm
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:34 pm
The national security spokesperson, John Kirby, would not directly confirm or deny reports that the new Russian weapon was nuclear, but he did say it was “space-based” and that it violated the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, which prohibits the deployment in space of nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction.
Kirby was briefing reporters at the White House amid a wave of speculation following cryptic comments about the new threat by the Republican chair of the House intelligence committee, Mike Turner.
nbd
i’m sure we can totally trust vlad, despite all of the international treaties and agreements he’s reneged on
And let’s zoom in on that - setting to the side the (not-at-all-uncalled-for)
WMDs in SPACE!!! thing.
What you point out directly bears on what reasonable “peace” conditions/discussions (vis a vis Russia/Ukraine) are even capable of looking like.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:50 pm
by ousdahl
not-at-all-uncalled-for?
is that a sort of agreement that all these cryptic threat soundbites should be viewed with skepticism?!
and would you care to elaborate what you mean on "peace" conditions/discussions, please?
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:14 pm
by ousdahl
I mean...
U.S. Rejects Putin’s Latest Call for Ukraine Negotiations
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/09/us/p ... peace.html
The Biden administration dismissed on Friday a call by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia for negotiations to end the war in Ukraine, showing no sign that flagging political support for American military aid to Kyiv had made President Biden more inclined to make concessions to Moscow.
During his two-hour interview at the Kremlin with the former Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who now broadcasts independently online, Mr. Putin offered long defenses of his invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 but said he was prepared to settle the conflict diplomatically.
“We are willing to negotiate,” Mr. Putin told Mr. Carlson in the interview, which was released on Thursday. “You should tell the current Ukrainian leadership to stop and come to the negotiating table,” he added, referring to the U.S. government.
The Russian leader spoke at a moment of apparent leverage, following the failure of a vaunted Ukrainian summer counteroffensive to achieve substantial gains and as the Biden administration is struggling to win congressional approval for desperately needed additional military aid for Kyiv.
It is not the first time Mr. Putin has expressed willingness to negotiate over the fate of Ukraine, and Western officials have long been skeptical of his intentions. But because it was his first interview with an American media figure since the invasion, his call for talks has extra resonance, analysts said.
now, I'll admit. I haven't actually watched the Tucker interview. Wasn't particularly interested, but maybe I should be, I guess. Plus, that could be a wild way to get the randys and lobsters on bored with a peace deal, among other things.
and, I agree with "Western officials" who are skeptical of his intentions. As they should be!
But, also consider the position of those Western officials...
“Both we and President Zelensky have said numerous times that we believe this war will end through negotiations,” a National Security Council spokesman said in a statement. “Despite Mr. Putin’s words, we have seen no actions to indicate he is interested in ending this war. If he was, he would pull back his forces and stop his ceaseless attacks on Ukraine.”
do western officials expect Putin to offer a ceasefire as a precondition for beginning negotiations toward a ceasefire?
...I guess this may or may not corroborate my concern that the U.S. does NOT want a ceasefire, even if everyone else involved does; largely for the reasons Fish has articulated - clearing out our weapons stash and depleting Russia's and flexing on China and jobs jobs jobs and such.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:17 pm
by Sparko
Ukraine controls conditions for its liberation.
Re: Let’s have a war!
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:19 pm
by ousdahl
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:13 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:00 pm
Biden’s current strategy of piecemeal support has not only yielded 1/5 of Ukraine to Russia so far, but also Biden just seems…ok with conceding it?
You continue to have ZERO idea what
this actually means and represents (or you keep saying it, even though you know better).
And things like that just make everything else you say...unserious.
I also meant to ask yesterday, but, would you kindly elaborate on this one too please?