Kansas Crimson

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:58 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:54 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:49 am

Ok. You’re choosing to believe what you want to believe. But there is lots and lots and lots of objective data to the contrary.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireSto ... -102384028

It simply IS misleading to say people got $700 checks and the government walked away.

It simply IS misleading to say the government is going to be gobbling up land by eminent domain.

This is the problem: when your worldview STARTS with latching on to conspiracy memes, you are anchored by falsehoods. And you are clearly smart enough to see through it.

I don't dispute that the government MIGHT be forthcoming with more at some point in the future. My quarrel is with expediency and timing. Why keep funneling billions overseas rather than immediately providing for the poorest of the poor in our own country?

Because Republicans keep shutting down funding to programs that support the poorest of the poor? Or did I miss the GOP getting behind things like welfare, SNAP, etc...

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:02 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:57 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:54 am

I don't dispute that the government MIGHT be forthcoming with more at some point in the future. My quarrel is with expediency and timing. Why keep funneling billions overseas rather than immediately providing for the poorest of the poor in our own country?

We’re doing both! That’s what being in the big chair, globally, means!

Just because we’re not sending smallpox blankets to refugees before they cross the border, and then lining the entire border with electric fences and Africanized killer beehives atop them, doesn’t mean we’re putting Ukraine above America.

I don't care about being in the big chair globally. I care about taking care of Americans, which those in power have decided is no longer of primary importance. Hence, the popularity of the Trumps, Viveks, and RFKs.

The rest of your post is reductio ad absurdum.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:09 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:02 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:57 am

We’re doing both! That’s what being in the big chair, globally, means!

Just because we’re not sending smallpox blankets to refugees before they cross the border, and then lining the entire border with electric fences and Africanized killer beehives atop them, doesn’t mean we’re putting Ukraine above America.

I don't care about being in the big chair globally. I care about taking care of Americans, which those in power have decided is no longer of primary importance. Hence, the popularity of the Trumps, Viveks, and RFKs.

The rest of your post is reductio ad absurdum.

Feel like I’m in bizarroland. None of the three you mentioned has done ANYTHING to suggest they give one single, solitary fuck - not even a partial fuck or a conditional promise of a hint of a fuck - about actual, ordinary Americans.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:09 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:02 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:57 am

We’re doing both! That’s what being in the big chair, globally, means!

Just because we’re not sending smallpox blankets to refugees before they cross the border, and then lining the entire border with electric fences and Africanized killer beehives atop them, doesn’t mean we’re putting Ukraine above America.

I don't care about being in the big chair globally. I care about taking care of Americans, which those in power have decided is no longer of primary importance. Hence, the popularity of the Trumps, Viveks, and RFKs.

The rest of your post is reductio ad absurdum.

Feel like I’m in bizarroland. None of the three you mentioned has done ANYTHING to suggest they give one single, solitary fuck - not even a partial fuck or a conditional promise of a hint of a fuck - about actual, ordinary Americans.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:15 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:09 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:02 am

I don't care about being in the big chair globally. I care about taking care of Americans, which those in power have decided is no longer of primary importance. Hence, the popularity of the Trumps, Viveks, and RFKs.

The rest of your post is reductio ad absurdum.

Feel like I’m in bizarroland. None of the three you mentioned has done ANYTHING to suggest they give one single, solitary fuck - not even a partial fuck or a conditional promise of a hint of a fuck - about actual, ordinary Americans.

I feel the same way. Everything they talk about is for the benefit of actual, ordinary Americans.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:18 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:15 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:09 am

Feel like I’m in bizarroland. None of the three you mentioned has done ANYTHING to suggest they give one single, solitary fuck - not even a partial fuck or a conditional promise of a hint of a fuck - about actual, ordinary Americans.

I feel the same way. Everything they talk about is for the benefit of actual, ordinary Americans.

Yes, they talk about it. But one is, charitably, a wayward scion of a moneyed political dynasty who clearly drinks from poisoned wells. And the other two are frauds, so what’s their word even mean?

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:19 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:18 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:15 am

I feel the same way. Everything they talk about is for the benefit of actual, ordinary Americans.

Yes, they talk about it. But one is, charitably, a wayward scion of a moneyed political dynasty who clearly drinks from poisoned wells. And the other two are frauds, so what’s their word even mean?

I would say the same of Brandon and Giggles. I'm interested in outcomes.

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:28 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:19 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:18 am

Yes, they talk about it. But one is, charitably, a wayward scion of a moneyed political dynasty who clearly drinks from poisoned wells. And the other two are frauds, so what’s their word even mean?

I would say the same of Brandon and Giggles. I'm interested in outcomes.

You should lecture us more on how childish name calling diverts the conversation...

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 12:15 pm It seems to me that you're fairly close to a two-issue voter: close the border and slow-walk transitioning toward alternative energy.

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:12 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:09 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:02 am

I don't care about being in the big chair globally. I care about taking care of Americans, which those in power have decided is no longer of primary importance. Hence, the popularity of the Trumps, Viveks, and RFKs.

The rest of your post is reductio ad absurdum.

Feel like I’m in bizarroland. None of the three you mentioned has done ANYTHING to suggest they give one single, solitary fuck - not even a partial fuck or a conditional promise of a hint of a fuck - about actual, ordinary Americans.

Psych needs someone to blame, and that's what matters.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:40 pm https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-go ... 552a94cbb4

Could have gone in any number of threads, sadly.

"A man illegally brought a loaded handgun into the Wisconsin Capitol, demanding to see Gov. Tony Evers, and returned at night with an assault rifle after posting bail, a spokesperson for the state said Thursday."

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:44 pmfree-dumb

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:46 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:44 pmfree-dumb

It’s almost like we’re seeing, in the news every day, exactly what’s meant by The Great Filter.

https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 1:01 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:46 pm

KUTradition wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:44 pmfree-dumb

It’s almost like we’re seeing, in the news every day, exactly what’s meant by The Great Filter.

https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

Fascinating read, thanks!

It feels like our planet is in the infantile stage of development where all we've really learned is that we can get what we need by screaming really loud.