Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:08 pm
DC bringing the pain!
Wonder if anyone will respond to this ?
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Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:24 pm
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:07 pm
We are supposed to be an example setter and set the bar, not lean on some lame excuse of "but they didn't do it so we quit".
Trump's excuses are a series of statements of varying levels of truth. None of them actually represent why he pulled us out of it.
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:56 pm
What a completely bassackwards reading of the situation.twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:07 pmWe are supposed to be an example setter and set the bar, not lean on some lame excuse of "but they didn't do it so we quit".
Trump's excuses are a series of statements of varying levels of truth. None of them actually represent why he pulled us out of it.
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:09 pm
Doh, didn't reread after multiple edits: what I meant was would be willingly expend more just to tick-off the liberals who are advocating for fuel efficiency or would you also take the more fuel efficient option? This the similar to "I know that a smaller hybrid car gives me 45 mpg and I will spend less money per month commuting to work, but by golly, leeebrals drive such cars, so I am going to buy and drive a Hummer"
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:15 pm
Twocoach Conveniently not responding to the US being the only country whose emissions have gone down.....and also not wanting to discuss the India and China aspects you (DC) mentioned....
Hmmm....that doesn't seem very genuine. And that's a predictable non-response that worthwhile comments from DC often seem to bring from select posters on the poli-bored.
Hmmm....that doesn't seem very genuine. And that's a predictable non-response that worthwhile comments from DC often seem to bring from select posters on the poli-bored.
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:18 pm
I long ago took your advice and utilized the "Ignore" feature to no longer have DC's content show on my screen because the vast majority of his content is a condescending putdown that adds nothing to the conversation.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:15 pm Twocoach Conveniently not responding to the US being the only country whose emissions have gone.....and also not wanting to discuss the India and China aspects you (DC) mentioned....
Hmmm....that doesn't seem very genuine. And that's a predictable non-response that worthwhile comments from DC often seem to bring from select posters on the poli-bored.
He doesn't need a cheerleader, he thinks highly enough of himself.
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:21 pm
As I've said here before, I grew up with alternative energy research putting food on my table and shoes on my feet. I think it's important and valuable. I also think fossil fuels are dirty and ultimately less efficient than other sources of energy. Additionally, I try to make decisions for myself and my family based on our needs rather than politics.zsn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:09 pmDoh, didn't reread after multiple edits: what I meant was would be willingly expend more just to tick-off the liberals who are advocating for fuel efficiency or would you also take the more fuel efficient option? This the similar to "I know that a smaller hybrid car gives me 45 mpg and I will spend less money per month commuting to work, but by golly, leeebrals drive such cars, so I am going to buy and drive a Hummer"
At the same time, I also believe that if you scratch a green, you'll find red underneath, which is to say that the real purpose of many environmental endeavors is to control behavior, not to save the planet. The GND is is very much along those lines. If they were serious, they wouldn't be pushing to eliminate nuclear -- a ZERO emissions energy source -- but rather to expand the use of microreactors.
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:23 pm
What to do with the nucular waist?
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:26 pm
I hear the Fukushima nuclear reactor has had some emissions.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:21 pmAs I've said here before, I grew up with alternative energy research putting food on my table and shoes on my feet. I think it's important and valuable. I also think fossil fuels are dirty and ultimately less efficient than other sources of energy. Additionally, I try to make decisions for myself and my family based on our needs rather than politics.zsn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:09 pmDoh, didn't reread after multiple edits: what I meant was would be willingly expend more just to tick-off the liberals who are advocating for fuel efficiency or would you also take the more fuel efficient option? This the similar to "I know that a smaller hybrid car gives me 45 mpg and I will spend less money per month commuting to work, but by golly, leeebrals drive such cars, so I am going to buy and drive a Hummer"
At the same time, I also believe that if you scratch a green, you'll find red underneath, which is to say that the real purpose of many environmental endeavors is to control behavior, not to save the planet. The GND is is very much along those lines. If they were serious, they wouldn't be pushing to eliminate nuclear -- a ZERO emissions energy source -- but rather to expand the use of microreactors.
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:26 pm
That's a vast majority of your interactions with many people too.
Truthfully, the vast majority of the actual content DC posts is stuff that doesn't support your narrative....and it's probably not as fun for you to argue with him since he's actually informed and intelligent on these issues that seem to have some of you so worked up.....so instead you tell me how dumb I am (which, I've admitted is true, relative to a lot of the people on here....you and plano obviously excluded
).....which to me, it seems kind of chicken shit to have DC on ignore just because he doesn't agree with your political stances....but does seem similar to how our actual elected officials deal with each other some (most?) of the time, so there's that.Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:30 pm
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:30 pm
I heard that you're an idiot.twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:26 pmI hear the Fukushima nuclear reactor has had some emissions.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:21 pmAs I've said here before, I grew up with alternative energy research putting food on my table and shoes on my feet. I think it's important and valuable. I also think fossil fuels are dirty and ultimately less efficient than other sources of energy. Additionally, I try to make decisions for myself and my family based on our needs rather than politics.zsn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:09 pm
Doh, didn't reread after multiple edits: what I meant was would be willingly expend more just to tick-off the liberals who are advocating for fuel efficiency or would you also take the more fuel efficient option? This the similar to "I know that a smaller hybrid car gives me 45 mpg and I will spend less money per month commuting to work, but by golly, leeebrals drive such cars, so I am going to buy and drive a Hummer"
At the same time, I also believe that if you scratch a green, you'll find red underneath, which is to say that the real purpose of many environmental endeavors is to control behavior, not to save the planet. The GND is is very much along those lines. If they were serious, they wouldn't be pushing to eliminate nuclear -- a ZERO emissions energy source -- but rather to expand the use of microreactors.
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:30 pm
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:32 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:37 am
human innovation is an amazing, wondrous thing. it can solve most any problem if only given the opportunity (if we can get out of our own way)
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:37 pm
Oh, burn!DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:30 pmI heard that you're an idiot.twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:26 pmI hear the Fukushima nuclear reactor has had some emissions.DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:21 pm
As I've said here before, I grew up with alternative energy research putting food on my table and shoes on my feet. I think it's important and valuable. I also think fossil fuels are dirty and ultimately less efficient than other sources of energy. Additionally, I try to make decisions for myself and my family based on our needs rather than politics.
At the same time, I also believe that if you scratch a green, you'll find red underneath, which is to say that the real purpose of many environmental endeavors is to control behavior, not to save the planet. The GND is is very much along those lines. If they were serious, they wouldn't be pushing to eliminate nuclear -- a ZERO emissions energy source -- but rather to expand the use of microreactors.
If nuclear is a zero emissions power source then go drink a glass of river water downstream from Fukushima.
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:38 pm
Do you hold both of DCs nuts at once?IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:15 pm Twocoach Conveniently not responding to the US being the only country whose emissions have gone down.....and also not wanting to discuss the India and China aspects you (DC) mentioned....
Hmmm....that doesn't seem very genuine. And that's a predictable non-response that worthwhile comments from DC often seem to bring from select posters on the poli-bored.
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:38 pm
Good lord, grow up.
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:39 pm
Re: Green New Deal
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:41 pm
jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:38 pmDo you hold both of DCs nuts at once?IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:15 pm Twocoach Conveniently not responding to the US being the only country whose emissions have gone down.....and also not wanting to discuss the India and China aspects you (DC) mentioned....
Hmmm....that doesn't seem very genuine. And that's a predictable non-response that worthwhile comments from DC often seem to bring from select posters on the poli-bored.
Wonder if twocoach has plano on ignore?