Kansas Crimson

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:52 am

sdoyel wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:43 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:34 am I don't know that Self's offensive system is that complicated. A lot of different systems doesn't necessarily mean complicated especially when he runs only about 1 or 2 to start the season.

And, if it is complicated, what the fuck is he doing because we haven't been able to score with this core of players.

Last night was mostly about playing poorly, not enough focus, and a little bit about figuring out rotations. Udoka seems to be a slow starter, as well, and perhaps regressed in his ability to make something happen against the double team during his time off.

I hate to say it, but Dok is the problem with this offense.

I have a hard time distinguishing between what is Doke's fault, and what is our guards' fault in terms of getting him the ball in a position to score.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:53 am

sdoyel wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:43 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:34 am I don't know that Self's offensive system is that complicated. A lot of different systems doesn't necessarily mean complicated especially when he runs only about 1 or 2 to start the season.

And, if it is complicated, what the fuck is he doing because we haven't been able to score with this core of players.

Last night was mostly about playing poorly, not enough focus, and a little bit about figuring out rotations. Udoka seems to be a slow starter, as well, and perhaps regressed in his ability to make something happen against the double team during his time off.

I hate to say it, but Dok is the problem with this offense.

Before we go all chicken little, let's remember that Self has figured out how to use Udoka so effectively that he set NCAA records for efficiency.

But, sure, with guys like Agbaji and Dotson, we do not have to run the offense through Udoka, and I don't think we will. Udoka's best season here, we didn't run the offense through him. That's on the staff to figure out and Dotson playing better sure helps a ton.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:43 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:53 am

sdoyel wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:43 am

I hate to say it, but Dok is the problem with this offense.

Before we go all chicken little, let's remember that Self has figured out how to use Udoka so effectively that he set NCAA records for efficiency.

But, sure, with guys like Agbaji and Dotson, we do not have to run the offense through Udoka, and I don't think we will. Udoka's best season here, we didn't run the offense through him. That's on the staff to figure out and Dotson playing better sure helps a ton.

That's what I mean. The issue is running the offense THROUGH Dok.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:51 am I thought DMac had some good moments passing out of the double.

But Udoka has always struggled with double. He’ll either walk, get it stripped because he puts the ball on the floor or hurry into a not great shot.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:49 am I'm a little surprised we were so unprepared for dealing with hard doubles on the bigs. Unless/until we start hurting people for doing that, it's what we'll continue to see.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: Just seem the bigger problem last night was everything that surrounded 28 turnovers.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:34 am
Last night was mostly about playing poorly, not enough focus, and a little bit about figuring out rotations. Udoka seems to be a slow starter, as well, and perhaps regressed in his ability to make something happen against the double team during his time off.

chiknbut wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:01 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:34 am
Last night was mostly about playing poorly, not enough focus, and a little bit about figuring out rotations. Udoka seems to be a slow starter, as well, and perhaps regressed in his ability to make something happen against the double team during his time off.

Last night was ALL about figuring out rotations. That's why these games suck so much. It's sloppy basketball by good teams trying to figure themselves out. Michigan State had the same problem.

Self used 10-11 guys in the first half last night and eventually settled into a smaller rotation in the second half. It's what coaches do.

I enjoyed the game and it's so great to have the Jayhawks back. But these are throwaway games, only designed to appease advertisers and fans. All four coaches would prefer to play 6-7 games against decent competition before being thrown into a situation like this - just so they can get comfortable with rotations.

This is going to be a really, really good team. They will present huge match up problems for everyone.

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:25 am I dunno. I'll take the wild, sloppy, up-tempo team we saw last night over last year's sleepy, Dedric-Lawson team any day of the week.

I didn't fall asleep once last night. Not many games I could say that about last year.

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:20 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:50 pm Didn’t think anyone played particularly well.

I honestly don’t think we’ll play a worse game this season.

We probably will against Iowa State and their fans will think it means they are going to the Final Four. Then we'll make the Final Four and they will lose as a 9 seed in the first round.

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:48 am I was constantly screaming "are you f-ing kidding me?!?" at my TV.