Kansas Crimson

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:36 pm Everyone is a socialist while they are suppling the teet. Then mom and dad separate them. And all of a sudden they are not.

suckling?

And also, to anyone criticizing “socialism,” are you more comfortable with average Joes paying a higher effective tax rate than the 1 percenters and corporations making record profits?

i’m 40...haven’t been “suppling” (whatever that means) the teat for 15-20 years, and am nowhere near being the sort of conservative you claim, Mich

maybe you need to join lobs in self-induced time-out?

I feel like I’ve brought up a lot of food talking points.

But rather than flesh out those talking points, we can’t get past the hangups about boogeyman words.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:39 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:36 pm Everyone is a socialist while they are suppling the teet. Then mom and dad separate them. And all of a sudden they are not.

suckling?

If I’m gonna suckle a “teet,” I sure do hope it’ll be supple.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:38 pm personally, i like have the Forest Service, National Parks system, National Interstate Highway system, being able to pick up the phone and dial 911, and even the armed forces most of the time (among a myriad of other things that everyone’s tax dollars subsidize)

That's not socialism.

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:43 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:38 pm personally, i like have the Forest Service, National Parks system, National Interstate Highway system, being able to pick up the phone and dial 911, and even the armed forces most of the time (among a myriad of other things that everyone’s tax dollars subsidize)

That's not socialism.

you’re right

and?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:41 pm And also, to anyone criticizing “socialism,” are you more comfortable with average Joes paying a higher effective tax rate than the 1 percenters and corporations making record profits?

progressive income taxes are not socialism.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:38 pm personally, i like have the Forest Service, National Parks system, National Interstate Highway system, being able to pick up the phone and dial 911, and even the armed forces most of the time (among a myriad of other things that everyone’s tax dollars subsidize)

Same. Like i said, socialist programs/policies. Select socialist programs/policies.

Not governement taking over most private business because ousdahl thinks he should get paid the same as the owner of the hotel because he is the one dealing with all those annoying early check in requests.

Now you’re putting words in my mouth.

Funny how so many of the discussions here end up that way.

For the record, I want nothing being put in my mouth unless it’s a supple teet.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:47 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:38 pm personally, i like have the Forest Service, National Parks system, National Interstate Highway system, being able to pick up the phone and dial 911, and even the armed forces most of the time (among a myriad of other things that everyone’s tax dollars subsidize)

Same. Like i said, socialist programs/policies. Select socialist programs/policies.

Not governement taking over most private business because ousdahl thinks he should get paid the same as the owner of the hotel because he is the one dealing with all those annoying early check in requests.

just stop

maybe you need to borrow lobs’ clown shoes

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:44 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:41 pm And also, to anyone criticizing “socialism,” are you more comfortable with average Joes paying a higher effective tax rate than the 1 percenters and corporations making record profits?

progressive income taxes are not socialism.

Then why are they vilified as if they are?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:52 pm

PhDhawk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:44 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:41 pm And also, to anyone criticizing “socialism,” are you more comfortable with average Joes paying a higher effective tax rate than the 1 percenters and corporations making record profits?

progressive income taxes are not socialism.

Then why are they vilified as if they are?

What are you talking about? We have a progressive income tax and have since the civil war. Only a few candidates have proposed a flat tax rate, and none gained much traction.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Nov 09, 2020 3:36 pm Everyone is a socialist while they are suppling the teet. Then mom and dad separate them. And all of a sudden they are not.

Lol, yeah, Biden out-earned Trump by appealing only to lazy people without jobs.

And that wealthy swing to Biden from earlier in this thread - they're poor and lazy too.

Socialism is for the rich in America. bridges, drilling permits to steal national resources, roads, defense, gold plated health care from publicly trained providers. Police to protect gated communities from hungry commies and brown people. Public airwaves to indoctrinate poor people to vote Rich Socialist Republican. Ahhhh. Stimulus checks for “small business”. Heee hee

We all depend on well-run government to survive. Every time someone wants to add a program for the needy, like say health care, it is bad socialism. Every time we starve the government of operating funds so the wealthy can can spike the ball, it is free market capitalism. Get a certain amount of tattered poor to support the country club exclusions and tax abatements? Democracy. Tattered poor taking control of government and unionizing? Election fraud.