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Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:56 am
by ousdahl
Is that dude really the instant impact guard we need?

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:15 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Also, UK fans giving up on Cal over something they signed up for is great.


Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:17 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
And, UT might already be counting on striking out.


Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:19 pm
by pdub
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:37 am
jfish26 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:36 am
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:35 am

I am just assuming UT would give Beard the resources to recruit like Shaka, but you're correct that Tech receding would make up for it.

We might be seeing some of those early 2000's UT teams, though. I think it's great.
The streak would not exist but for the divisional scheduling, that's for damn sure.
And that's the truth.
Eh.
Maybe the streak would have been 1 year shorter ( not winning in 2005 ) but we'd still had a great chance of tying UCLA with 13.

We swept the South in 2006 sans Texas.
Lost to North teams MIZZOU in OT and ksu in some crazy out of dimension upset at AFH.
And then we beat Texas in a neutral location.

Every year after that we were ranked higher in kenpom than Texas.
And in 2009, in our supposed down year, the North was stronger than the South.

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:28 pm
by pdub
And I hope Texas somehow gets Oats.
And Beard stays at Tech.
And OU gets someone legit.

Keep the league strong.

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:33 pm
by NewtonHawk11
If OU got a Mark Schmidt from St. Bona or Paul Mills from ORU, they'd be good hires.

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:58 pm
by jfish26
pdub wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:19 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:37 am
jfish26 wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:36 am

The streak would not exist but for the divisional scheduling, that's for damn sure.
And that's the truth.
Eh.
Maybe the streak would have been 1 year shorter ( not winning in 2005 ) but we'd still had a great chance of tying UCLA with 13.

We swept the South in 2006 sans Texas.
Lost to North teams MIZZOU in OT and ksu in some crazy out of dimension upset at AFH.
And then we beat Texas in a neutral location.

Every year after that we were ranked higher in kenpom than Texas.
And in 2009, in our supposed down year, the North was stronger than the South.
Lol. I'm as big of a fanboy as you'll find, but if we were playing the South teams 2x/year while there were divisions, there wouldn't have been any streaks longer than something in the 3-5 range.

Which is still insanely, historically successful. Just not as gaudy.

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:18 pm
by jhawks99
Leawood wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:33 am Lubbock vs. Austin
Why do you hate Buddy Holly?

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:46 pm
by PhDhawk
pdub wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:28 pm And I hope Texas somehow gets Oats.
And Beard stays at Tech.
And OU gets someone legit.

Keep the league strong.
Should get some PAC-12 coaches if that's the goal.

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:13 pm
by InfiniteJ
If Tech was in another conference the Beard-to-Texas thing would already be a done deal. I can't see him leaving his players and then coaching against some of them for the next 3 years or so...then again, Beard did kind of screw UNLV around; maybe his word isn't as strong as others.

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:25 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
The thing that makes it hard is that, because of Beard's success, Texas doesn't have all of the major advantages over Tech like it used to. Brand new facilities, and he's not going to make much if any more than what he makes now.

UT is much easier to recruit to and it's his alma mater, that's kind of it. A few years ago I would have said UT gives him a shot at a National Title or 2, but he was a bad call away from doing it in Lubbock.

Far from a done deal.

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:27 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
Then there is Nate Oats. I'd gladly take him in the league, but what does UT offer that Bama does not? It kind of stops at better recruiting areas. Of course, that could be enough.

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:37 pm
by ousdahl
What does Austin offer that Tuscaloosa does not?

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:41 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:37 pm What does Austin offer that Tuscaloosa does not?
But this stuff never really matters. Possibly the two most sought after college basketball jobs are in Lexington, Kentucky and Lawrence, Kansas.

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:45 pm
by pdub
PhDhawk wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:46 pm
pdub wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:28 pm And I hope Texas somehow gets Oats.
And Beard stays at Tech.
And OU gets someone legit.

Keep the league strong.
Should get some PAC-12 coaches if that's the goal.
damn

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:48 pm
by ousdahl
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:41 pm
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:37 pm What does Austin offer that Tuscaloosa does not?
But this stuff never really matters. Possibly the two most sought after college basketball jobs are in Lexington, Kentucky and Lawrence, Kansas.
ok then can I change my answer to “better recruiting areas”

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:53 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:48 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:41 pm
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:37 pm What does Austin offer that Tuscaloosa does not?
But this stuff never really matters. Possibly the two most sought after college basketball jobs are in Lexington, Kentucky and Lawrence, Kansas.
ok then can I change my answer to “better recruiting areas”
Yep, very legit reason.

UT could be a top 10 job in the country for hoops.

Only downsides are football school and the fact that their athletic department will always be ran by some of the biggest egos in the country and their buffoonery.

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:56 pm
by ousdahl
Do either of those downsides also apply to Bama tho?

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:57 pm
by ousdahl
And I’m a homer but could it be said the Big 12 top to bottom tends to be a better hoops conference than the SEC?

Re: Shaka to Marquette

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:59 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:56 pm Do either of those downsides also apply to Bama tho?
First one for sure, but second one seems pretty unique to UT and the reason why they are no longer a Top 5 football program when they absolutely should be one.