TDub wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:20 pm
Right. Which is why I included "with that budget"
Bid documents seem to always expand and complicated from DD set to the 100%s....but we always have to argue for the associated cost implications fornthe multiple ASI's etc
I was at the grand opening for the upper of the two buildings, the Experience Music Project in Seattle. I was talking to the structural engineer who was responsible for the shell, I was responsible for everything beyond the waterproofing. There was a room at the opening where they had all of the models that were developed during the design process. The first one was a series of cubes. And then it got more curved over the course of development. The guy from Magnusson Klemencic pointed to the second model and said, that's the one we made our proposal based on. I think mine was about next to last. His proposal was based on a $250M budget and his change orders covered the other $150M increase before it was done. By the time we looked at it the budget for the skin system was set at $50M and we only saw one change order.
Paul Allen indulged Gehry like no other Owner, and he went wild with it. In the end he got his money's worth. In some respects it may be the most geometrically complicated building ever attempted. In it's day it pushed BIM to the limits of what could be done.
But yeah, it can be a slog getting your fee increased "just because the budget increased". There is $150M more fucking building to build, goddamn right there is more work/fee involved for everyone who is not a contractor. In the end that building was fun to work on though. Gehry's people at the time were the best to work with.
The second project was with KPF out of NY. Their people are really good as well. The biggest degree of difficulty there was making the hundreds of seismic joints in the thing disappear. It looks like one big monolith but it is about 40-50 separate structures connected by seismic slip joints.