Kansas Crimson

If you were a 1 and done frehsman PG why would you come to KU? That's the 1 position we almost never have a freshman thrive in during their 1st year under Self.

"And at least one of those two hats (or maybe both) isn't fitting right in terms of freshman guards."

Hi, my name is Gradey Dick, I play(ish) for the Toronto Raptors now but played for you last season and was 2nd team AllB12. Did you already forget me?

Yes. Probably have to distinguish between guard and point guard. It hasn't always been that way, but it has been like that in a few years in recent memory.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:57 pm "And at least one of those two hats (or maybe both) isn't fitting right in terms of freshman guards."

Hi, my name is Gradey Dick, I play(ish) for the Toronto Raptors now but played for you last season and was 2nd team AllB12. Did you already forget me?

In my head, I have Gradey as a wing.

I consider Gradey a shooting guard.

He's both.
The small forward is kind of a mush position in most offenses now.

He's off-ball.

Our problem has been with guys who are (or should be) on-ball.

The top 1 and done PGs go to Kentucky. Calipari has a ton of success with them (indivudally, not team success necessarily)...UK focuses on individual success (draft position) a lot more than KU does.

Take a look around the NBA and there are a shitload of former Calipari PGs and SGs.


And yet Self and KU are way better at winning CBB games than Calipari and UK.

Elmarko was a top 5 PG in his class - even as high as 3rd as a 5 star depending on where you look.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:04 pm Elmarko was a top 5 PG in his class - even as high as 3rd as a 5 star depending on where you look.

Has to be one of our highest rated PG recruits in the Self era, right?

I think Elmarko will be really good if he stays at KU. But I don't like freshman PGs in a Bill Self offense.

Dotson was up there too.
Higher depending on which source.

Chalmers was considered a point and probably is also one of the highest ranked we've had I'd think.

But the highest would be Selby. Dude was no. 1 overall not just no. 1 PG.

pdub wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 3:08 pm Dotson was up there too.
Higher depending on which source.

Chalmers was considered a point and probably is also one of the highest ranked we've had I'd think.

But the highest would be Selby. Dude was no. 1 overall not just no. 1 PG.

(And of course he was really not very good at all - just gets bailed out, reputation-wise, by a hot-shooting start.)

Final 2024 Crimscores:

Diamond Boi Dickinson .772
Kevin Draft Stock McCullar .707
KJ Adams .549
Dajuan Harris .433
Johnny Furphy .376
Nicolas Timberlake .194
Elmarko Jackson .191
Parker Braun .167
Jamari McDowell .109

Diamond Boi finishes 4th in Crimscore under Bill Self all time.
McCullar 9th all time.

The 6th man Crimscore ( Timberlake .194 ) is the 2nd lowest ever under Self 2nd only to Bryce Thompson 2021 ( .186 ).

Diamond Boi's blocks per 40 comes in 44th under Bill Self for players over 7 minutes a game.

Dajuan's Crimscore decreases from 2023 to 2024 - .471 to .433.

McCullar has the biggest jump from .507 to .707.
KJ jumps from .473 to .549.

McCullar is the 4th player since the 3 point line was established to average 18+ points and 4+ assists at Kansas for a season ( he is the only one from that group to average 5+ rebounds making him the only player to do so - 18+ ppg, 4+ apg, 5+ rpg ).

Can you name the other 3?

Frank Sherron Devonte?

Without looking I think Devon did it

Teamwork.
Vonte averaged just over 17 ppg in 2018.

i don't know what a crimscore is. but isn't it just some made up bull$#!t somebody made up.