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ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:23 am

DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:46 am The Yemeni Houthis are fucking with Red Sea shipping as a response to Israeli aggression against and denial of humanitarian aid in Gaza, using weapons provided by and support from - you guessed it - the good ol' US of A.

You gotta try hard to be that dum.

see, it'd be one thing if we simply disagreed, or if someone made some valid attempt to prove me wrong. For real, please do prove me wrong!

it's the shameless condescension that makes me feel compelled to persist - especially when the ones being condescending are also just sorta shrugging off information relevant to the discussion.

So, if it's me trying hard to be this dum, then would it be easy for you to be like way more intelligenter, then?

Please articulate why considering that the Houthis have explicitly stated they're fucking with shipping as a response to Israeli (and US by proxy) aggression in Gaza is "dum", but positing this thread is as simple as hating "Jooze" is supposed to be some sort of much better take. And yes, I'm aware that the Houthis indeed hate the "Jooze," but I still think there's more context to this situation than simply that.

if you're unwilling or unable to articulate that much, just realize it makes it a lot more difficult to take you seriously, and just makes your condescension seem petty.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:34 pm i already regret wasting my time

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgroun ... s-genocide

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:28 pm
Now, do you think Israel's aggression against...Gaza, and response overall to the 10/7 attacks has been appropriate?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:28 pm That shit is awful, I don't mean to blame the "Jooze" for that happening, as you try to suggest.

Now, do you think Israel's aggression against...Gaza, and response overall to the 10/7 attacks has been appropriate?

Please do help me understand how one can be concerned about the "Jooze" being murdered by the hundreds, yet shrug off the Palestinians being murdered by the tens of thousands.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:17 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:28 pm That shit is awful, I don't mean to blame the "Jooze" for that happening, as you try to suggest.

Now, do you think Israel's aggression against...Gaza, and response overall to the 10/7 attacks has been appropriate?

Please do help me understand how one can be concerned about the "Jooze" being murdered by the hundreds, yet shrug off the Palestinians being murdered by the tens of thousands.

Many people believe God created man and animals.
If God created man and animals, I feel he/she/it made a big mistake in that way too often survival means man and animals must kill or be killed.

I had an ex who would say way too often - "TEN FOLD". Meaning you fuck with her, she'll get you back TEN FOLD. That's what Israel is doing.

Meanwhile, as barbaric as Israel comes off as being, so many people neglect that during "peace" Israel supplies electricity, fuel, water, food, etc,, to Gaza.
You know, the "country" who's "leadership" wants to see the destruction of Israel.
What does Hamas provide Israel with?

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:10 pm
DC, your views on Israel/Palestine are so one-sided and selective and and good guy bad guy and comic-book-ish, that it makes Japhy's views on Russia/Ukraine seem comparatively objective.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:44 pm JFC.

Single guy. Saturday night. This is your choice of entertainment?

Sad.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 8:36 pm Ah.

So you double down on reducing a complex issue to as simple as “good and evil.”

Btw, you ignored every other point I tried to discuss with you, and your silence speaks volumes.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 9:32 am

zsn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:47 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:31 pm And while I’m not simply trying to “say it’s America’s fault,” I also think it’s wise to consider America’s role and presence in the Middle East in some pragmatic way, as least if we’re really gonna understand threads like this as well as we can.

Unfortunately our “role and presence” in the Middle East is tied to our (lack of) long term energy policies. Do we care if some faction in Queensland jumps ugly with another faction in New South Wales, aided by another faction in Victoria? For the most part, the answer would be no. We are dependent on Australia for next to nothing that meaningfully affects our economy.

Not so with the Middle East and other OPEC+ countries. Heck, at this point if a shooting war broke out among factions in West Virginia and Kentucky we could tell them to take their coal and shove it, and mean it. However, our government pulls a Sgt Schultz when bone saws are used on our soil.

thanks for the thoughtful response, zsn.

yea, energy resources and middle eastern conflicts are highly correlated. As far as I can tell, the Middle East at large seems pretty fed up with the west showing up to take middle eastern oil, and largely taking it by force. Heck, in the wake of the 10/7 attacks and all the gruesome headlines that have come from that, other headlines quietly came and went like, "US and Israel meet to discuss oil and gas opportunities off Gaza coast." Quite the coincidence, I guess.

to that, and to the OP's point, and to CoyDC's question, the answer is actually quite simple: The Yemeni Houthis are fucking with Red Sea shipping as a response to Israeli aggression against and denial of humanitarian aid in Gaza, using weapons provided by and support from - you guessed it - the good ol' US of A. They have been very up front in their intentions here. They also say they won't stop fucking with shipping until a ceasefire is reached.



I'd say this is another example of why, when it comes to understanding global issues, it can be good to seek perspectives broader than just western media, but even western media has reported the Houthi intentions as such.

now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find a place to hide before the pols bored pitchfork mob comes after me again.