Sparko wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:21 pm
He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
Remember this as thousands go hungry after they lose food stamps and SNAP. No man is an island. Especially one where Galt lives
I missed the part where Rand’s philosophy became real life. People who are here legally are still (and will continue to be) eligible for benefits. The rest are free to go back to their countries of origin and seek assistance there.
Re: Ayn Rand
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:23 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Damn! I am just reading this thread now.
Who woulda thunk there would be highlights such as.....
* "I dunno".
* A quote from H.L. Mencken.
* "Neil Peart loved her.
When he was a kid.
Then he grew up".
* "Funny enough, if we had to put Lord of the Rings characters to posters on this bored, you'd be an instant fit for Saruman".
* "I have no idea what that means. I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds".
* "You can ban me".
* "i don't know who anne rand is".
* "You will get back what you dish out".
* "you can't spell Macho Manne Randy Savage without "anne rand""
* "is it already page 47....
you shoulda followed your path...there is nothing good here".
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:57 am
Funny enough, if we had to put Lord of the Rings characters to posters on this bored, you'd be an instant fit for Saruman.
"Hey, I don't really care for how Sauron acts either, but we kinda have no choice here."
I have no idea what that means. I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds. But, if that’s your thing, then good on you. I always find it interesting that Rand’s ideas are so threatening to some people.
And you do have a choice. You can ban me. Problem is, I’m not breaking any rules, so doing so would say a lot more about you than me, which I think you realize deep down.
I don’t care for people who name call and hurl insults for no good reason, either, but I don’t give in to bullying or attempts at intimidation.
"I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds".
Think about that. Give it a few seconds (or more) of thought.
I'll give you a hint on what I would say that.
It starts with the letter B, has the letter B in the middle, and ends in the letter E.
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:57 am
Funny enough, if we had to put Lord of the Rings characters to posters on this bored, you'd be an instant fit for Saruman.
"Hey, I don't really care for how Sauron acts either, but we kinda have no choice here."
I have no idea what that means. I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds. But, if that’s your thing, then good on you. I always find it interesting that Rand’s ideas are so threatening to some people.
And you do have a choice. You can ban me. Problem is, I’m not breaking any rules, so doing so would say a lot more about you than me, which I think you realize deep down.
I don’t care for people who name call and hurl insults for no good reason, either, but I don’t give in to bullying or attempts at intimidation.
"I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds".
Think about that. Give it a few seconds (or more) of thought.
I'll give you a hint on what I would say that.
It starts with the letter B, has the letter B in the middle, and ends in the letter E.
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:57 am
Funny enough, if we had to put Lord of the Rings characters to posters on this bored, you'd be an instant fit for Saruman.
"Hey, I don't really care for how Sauron acts either, but we kinda have no choice here."
I have no idea what that means. I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds. But, if that’s your thing, then good on you. I always find it interesting that Rand’s ideas are so threatening to some people.
And you do have a choice. You can ban me. Problem is, I’m not breaking any rules, so doing so would say a lot more about you than me, which I think you realize deep down.
I don’t care for people who name call and hurl insults for no good reason, either, but I don’t give in to bullying or attempts at intimidation.
"I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds".
Think about that. Give it a few seconds (or more) of thought.
I'll give you a hint on what I would say that.
It starts with the letter B, has the letter B in the middle, and ends in the letter E.
Hit the Nail on the Head
Song by The Amazing Rhythm Aces
… I saw you last night
Sittin' alone at the bar
Came back this evenin'
Just to find out who you are
… 'Cause baby, baby
You hit the nail right on the head
… I can tell you're from down south
The way you say ya'll
You look at me over your shoulder
Just like Lauren Bacall
… Oh baby, (baby, baby)
You hit the nail right on the head
… Well I like the way you chuckle at me
I just love the way you hold your gown
You think you could manage
To just stagger over here
We'll find a place where
There's not so many people around
… Come over here, baby
I can dance and I can sing
Wrap yourself around me
Just like a, yoyo string
… Oh baby baby, mmm, baby baby
Come on over, baby
Come on up to my place
I got something up there, darlin'
Wipe that smile right off your face
… You hit the nail right on the head
Oh um
… Curls in your hair
Cut me like a knife
Sometime later on, baby
You're gonna hafta tell me
The story of your life
… You hit the nail right on the head
Oh baby
(Oh baby baby, mmm, baby baby)
You hit the nail right on the head
… Oh hey baby, yeah!
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Russell Smith
Re: Ayn Rand
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:27 am
by pdub
I guess I don't know Psych well enough to guess that, even with the hints.
Re: Ayn Rand
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:39 am
by JKLivin
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:27 am
I guess I don't know Psych well enough to guess that, even with the hints.
I have no idea what that means. I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds. But, if that’s your thing, then good on you. I always find it interesting that Rand’s ideas are so threatening to some people.
And you do have a choice. You can ban me. Problem is, I’m not breaking any rules, so doing so would say a lot more about you than me, which I think you realize deep down.
I don’t care for people who name call and hurl insults for no good reason, either, but I don’t give in to bullying or attempts at intimidation.
"I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds".
Think about that. Give it a few seconds (or more) of thought.
I'll give you a hint on what I would say that.
It starts with the letter B, has the letter B in the middle, and ends in the letter E.
You are entitled to that opinion.
Serious question: did you do a Bar Mitzvah? Do you think the Torah has any use for you, even cultural, historical, or wisdom-wise? Just curious. Not trying to start a debate.
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:27 am
I guess I don't know Psych well enough to guess that, even with the hints.
He's referring to The Bible.
Oh.
Duh.
Well, yea, if you believe a man walked on water and came back from the dead, and another man parted the seas, and the entire population died out in a massive flood except for a dude and his fam and a shit load of animals on a single boat - then the leap to Elves and Orcs isn't that big.
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 7:27 am
I guess I don't know Psych well enough to guess that, even with the hints.
He's referring to The Bible.
Oh.
Duh.
Well, yea, if you believe a man walked on water and came back from the dead, and another man parted the seas, and the entire population died out in a massive flood except for a dude and his fam and a shit load of animals on a single boat - then the leap to Elves and Orcs isn't that big.
but see, psycho’s imaginary friend is the real one
all the others are, well, just imaginary
Re: Ayn Rand
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:20 am
by pdub
The rational response to this would be ( of which i'd agree with ) is that the book is one of fables - a lot of the stuff in it is not applicable anymore, a lot of the stuff in it is made up - but it's a historical book for a reason as there are good lessons for humanity throughout.
The key lesson for Christians in particular are those of Jesus, who was very very likely to be a real human, who teaches humility, forgiveness, service, compassion and to love your neighbors and even your enemies. His Golden Rule is this "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Unfortunately, a shit load of Christians just kinda nod at that part and say, 'well yea, that's real important for sure' but then don't practice it. Pysch is a man that feels like he fits in that category.
Re: Ayn Rand
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:32 am
by KUTradition
$3.99 buffet
Re: Ayn Rand
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:39 am
by Sparko
The beauty of Christ's message is that even without some reward, it is the best way to live. It is simple and powerful. Only disingenuousness can corrupt the message of taking care of one another and loving one's neighbor.
Re: Ayn Rand
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:52 am
by pdub
It's an extremely difficult way of living.
I'd wager fewer than one tenth of a percent of people in this country embody it.
I have no idea what that means. I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds. But, if that’s your thing, then good on you. I always find it interesting that Rand’s ideas are so threatening to some people.
And you do have a choice. You can ban me. Problem is, I’m not breaking any rules, so doing so would say a lot more about you than me, which I think you realize deep down.
I don’t care for people who name call and hurl insults for no good reason, either, but I don’t give in to bullying or attempts at intimidation.
"I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds".
Think about that. Give it a few seconds (or more) of thought.
I'll give you a hint on what I would say that.
It starts with the letter B, has the letter B in the middle, and ends in the letter E.
You are entitled to that opinion.
Thank you. Just as you are entitled to your opinion.
My extended opinion is those who believe most if not all of what is written in the Bible, are probably more inclined to believe not true things they read on the internet - without doing any research using non biased/independent/reliable sources.
That's my general opinion.
"I don’t waste my time reading about nerdy fantasy worlds".
Think about that. Give it a few seconds (or more) of thought.
I'll give you a hint on what I would say that.
It starts with the letter B, has the letter B in the middle, and ends in the letter E.
You are entitled to that opinion.
Serious question: did you do a Bar Mitzvah? Do you think the Torah has any use for you, even cultural, historical, or wisdom-wise? Just curious. Not trying to start a debate.
Yes, I did a Bar Mitzvah.
Yes, I believe the Torah has A use for me.
I don't believe I am a better (or worse) person for being Bar Mitzvahed.
I don't believe the majority of the "story" that is written in the Torah.
I have said it many times before and I will hopefully say it until the day I die, I believe religion is a wonderful positive thing for many people. I also believe religion is a terrible negative thing for perhaps an equal (if not more) amount of people.
I won't ridicule people for using their religious beliefs for positive things/aspects of their life.
I will ridicule people (including the person I love the most - my mother) for accepting things to be true that can't be proven as being true. The Bible/Torah/Koran Etc. being a major aspect/example of my feeling that way.
That's me being overly candid. I don't expect others to agree with my feelings.
Re: Ayn Rand
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:42 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:39 am
The beauty of Christ's message is that even without some reward, it is the best way to live. It is simple and powerful. Only disingenuousness can corrupt the message of taking care of one another and loving one's neighbor.
Let me help you to understand my perspective.
1. I fully admit I don't know what "Christ's (exact) message" is/was but I have an idea of what the general message is.
Interesting that I just did a quick web search and while there are many similar answers/responses to "What is Christ's Message?", there are a lot of different, not exact/specific answers.
Which brings me to how I feel about religion. Whatever religion means to you, whatever works for you in a positive manner - great.
Just don't expect me to be on the same exact page as you in that regard.
2. Yes, very simply put, being a good person is probably the best way for a person to live. But..... If Christ's message is anything more than that, then I ask/wonder who the heck are you, or I, or anyone else, to tell someone else that someone else's message is the best way for them to live? Especially when people interpret a "message" to mean different things to them.
3. If "Christ's message" is indeed take care of one another and love one's neighbor, that's fantastic to me. I mean it. I agree with you that only "disingenuousness can corrupt the (that) message".
The NOT funny thing is that in 2025 USA, I am fully confident that the majority (50.1% or more) of American Christians (and people of other religions) shit on that message in one way/manner/degree or another.
Heck, a perfect example of it is what is posted on these boards multiple times on a daily basis. Right?
Serious question: did you do a Bar Mitzvah? Do you think the Torah has any use for you, even cultural, historical, or wisdom-wise? Just curious. Not trying to start a debate.
Yes, I did a Bar Mitzvah.
Yes, I believe the Torah has A use for me.
I don't believe I am a better (or worse) person for being Bar Mitzvahed.
I don't believe the majority of the "story" that is written in the Torah.
I have said it many times before and I will hopefully say it until the day I die, I believe religion is a wonderful positive thing for many people. I also believe religion is a terrible negative thing for perhaps an equal (if not more) amount of people.
I won't ridicule people for using their religious beliefs for positive things/aspects of their life.
I will ridicule people (including the person I love the most - my mother) for accepting things to be true that can't be proven as being true. The Bible/Torah/Koran Etc. being a major aspect/example of my feeling that way.
That's me being overly candid. I don't expect others to agree with my feelings.
I understand and respect your viewpoints.
The way I often explain it to my students is that The Bible is true in the sense that it uses storytelling to convey a set of timeless principles and what I refer to as "capital T truths" that guide our lives. Was the world created in a literal seven days? I don't know. I do know that the story conveys that God is all-powerful, creative, orderly, rational, and caring. I think the latter is vastly more important than the former. You can apply that to just about any biblical narrative.
I also believe that God doesn't expect us to check our brains at the door. People focus a lot on "love your neighbor" as meaning that we should, for example, open the floodgates to whoever wants to come in. The problem is, God is not a magic wand and is not going to magically make more room, more resources, and more economic opportunity in one part of the world to accommodate an unlimited number of people or protect us from the consequences of allowing drug cartels to run rampant. We have to use our heads and determine how many people we can accommodate and how quickly. We can (and should) be intelligent loving neighbors.
Re: Ayn Rand
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:53 am
by JKLivin
pdub wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:52 am
It's an extremely difficult way of living.
I'd wager fewer than one tenth of a percent of people in this country embody it.
Maybe less than that. We all fail. Repeatedly.
Re: Ayn Rand
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:56 am
by twocoach
Sparko wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:39 am
The beauty of Christ's message is that even without some reward, it is the best way to live. It is simple and powerful. Only disingenuousness can corrupt the message of taking care of one another and loving one's neighbor.
Christ's message? Did he write it down somewhere? Leave a voicemail?
We're being told by the Catholic Church what they want you to believe Christ's message was (if he even actually had one). This is all such made up nonsense.