Kansas Crimson

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:47 am

DrPepper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:18 am I am pretty sure that going to a marriage counselor when you’re 50 doesn’t make you a sociopath.
Was it because she liked the beach?
Was it because she had dirty glasses?
Was it because she wanted two front doors in her house?
Was it because she didn’t want to go in front of the entire world to talk about a trauma she suffered when she was a young teenager?
Is it because she was drinking when she was 15 in the 1980s?
Was it word choice? Her hair cut? Her profession?

Analytical thinkers like HouseDivided sometimes forget that not everyone else thinks analytically like them. If he was in Ford's shoes, HouseDivided might have made a list of all the possible answers for each possible question and answered each question in an emotionally detached, even toned manner to best support his claim.

Because she didn't behave the same as he would have, he seems to assume that it is because she is a mentally deranged lunatic who was paid to ruin Kavanaugh's life instead of just admitting that different people bwhave differently under extremely stressful situations.

The need to label Ford as crazy is merely a way to make it easier to dismiss her claims. Same as labeling blacks and immigrants as criminals and women as less capable makes it easier to treat them as less than equal.

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:07 pm and not jaded at all by personal experience

don’t forget to that bit

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:04 pm This whole situation is fascinating to watch unfold.

Republicans are confident she is lying.

Democrats are confident she is telling the truth.

AND neither side really has any idea (because how could they?!?), they just loyally stand with whichever side fits their own personal agenda and political party.

Gotta love it!

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:03 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:07 pm and not jaded at all by personal experience

don’t forget to that bit

(most) women lie and manipulate to get what they want. I wish it were not so.

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:19 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:03 pm

TraditionKU wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:07 pm and not jaded at all by personal experience

don’t forget to that bit

(most) women lie and manipulate to get what they want. I wish it were not so.

That hasn't been my experience at all.

Maybe it's you.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:38 pm

jeepinjayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:19 pm

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:03 pm

(most) women lie and manipulate to get what they want. I wish it were not so.

That hasn't been my experience at all.

Maybe it's you.

Entirely possible.

DrPepper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:54 pm The lawyers and Politicians used her as a pawn. I’m not arguing that point.
I recall her testimony being that she wasn’t aware that there were other options. Grassley made a big deal about that.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:58 pm Lying to get what you want isn't a gender specific trait. #bothsidesdoit

DrPepper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:03 pm The situation with the Ex sounds (based on years of seeing some of your posts), truly excruciating and completely unfair.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:02 pm

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:58 pm Lying to get what you want isn't a gender specific trait. #bothsidesdoit

Not something I do. Hard for me to imagine why anyone would do that.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:57 am
You are entitled to your opinion. I doubt that any of us are completely unbiased concerning this matter, and, as I have said several times, I could be wrong. It is my impression based on my educational and professional background and, yes, my own perceptions and experiences.

She made the choice to testify under oath before Congress. Nobody forced her to make an ass of herself on national TV, so I have a hard time feeling sorry for her. She embarrassed and humiliated Judge Kavanaugh, his wife, and his two daughters for no reason, and for that alone, I have no sympathy for her.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:02 pm

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:58 pm Lying to get what you want isn't a gender specific trait. #bothsidesdoit

Not something I do. Hard for me to imagine why anyone would do that.

HouseDivided wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:01 pm

DrPepper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:54 pm The lawyers and Politicians used her as a pawn. I’m not arguing that point.
I recall her testimony being that she wasn’t aware that there were other options. Grassley made a big deal about that.

And that, in and of itself, is disgraceful. Whatever Ms. Ford's issues are, this entire circus only made them worse and it damaged the Kavanaughs in the process.

DrPepper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:54 pm The lawyers and Politicians used her as a pawn. I’m not arguing that point.
I recall her testimony being that she wasn’t aware that there were other options. Grassley made a big deal about that.