Kansas Crimson

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:21 am

I look at that and I can't help but think.....

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:50 am I just can't throw KD into that group. He hasn't earned it. Even though he's visually impressive.

KD belongs. hes one of the most talented players to ever play the game. might be the best pure scorer the sport has ever seen. whether or not you like his attitude or free agency decisions... you cant ignore his talent

Saw this and it made me think of some of the stuff we were discussing yesterday.

Josh Jax got the start last night and made the most of it. 10-15 from the field and finished with 25.

Make Josh Jackson a starter and he produces again. 25 points
Oubs had 23.
Top 2 scorers for the Suns.

On a side note, I have no clue what's with Benny Mac. Not playing, not injured(?), not on bereavement leave, not playing in the G League.

Something like 7 years bad luck.

Soklous wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:41 pm Something like 7 years bad luck.

The hits just keep on coming.

shitty

Svi was LeBron's boy. How quickly The King must have turned on him.
Would have been as simple as LeBron telling management not to trade him - and he would still be a Laker.
My guess is he's not going to be a Piston for life. Maybe not even a Piston for the rest of the season.

Someone needs to check Wiggins to see if he has testicles and/or a heart.
Very rarely does he do anything productive in the last 5 minutes of close games.
Last night not being an exception.
He's NEVER going to be known as a super star if he doesn't have a desire to be one.
It's sad to me because I like the guy and only wish good things for him. I guess I shouldn't feel sorry for someone who is getting paid 148+ million dollars to play basketball half assed. Should I?

Svi is in a better situation (individually) in Detroit than he was in LA.

Reggie Bullock gets/got minutes in Detroit. Svi may likely get many/most of those because they need shooting.

Instead of Svi competing with Kuzma, Ingram, Lance, Hart, etc for minutes in LA, he will be competing with stanley Johnson, and Luke Kennard.....I'd take that 2nd situation if I were him...even though it's nicer to live in LA than Detroit.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:33 am Svi is in a better situation (individually) in Detroit than he was in LA.

Reggie Bullock gets/got minutes in Detroit. Svi may likely get many/most of those because they need shooting.

Instead of Svi competing with Kuzma, Ingram, Lance, Hart, etc for minutes in LA, he will be competing with stanley Johnson, and Luke Kennard.....I'd take that 2nd situation if I were him...even though it's nicer to live in LA than Detroit.

Of course, if the Lakers would have traded for Davis (with Svi still around), Svi might have been in line to start (out of necessity).

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:45 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:33 am Svi is in a better situation (individually) in Detroit than he was in LA.

Reggie Bullock gets/got minutes in Detroit. Svi may likely get many/most of those because they need shooting.

Instead of Svi competing with Kuzma, Ingram, Lance, Hart, etc for minutes in LA, he will be competing with stanley Johnson, and Luke Kennard.....I'd take that 2nd situation if I were him...even though it's nicer to live in LA than Detroit.

Of course, if the Lakers would have traded for Davis (with Svi still around), Svi might have been in line to start (out of necessity).

Maybe....but that's assuming Hart and KCP went in the trade too.....which would be WAY too much for AD. That'd have been ball, Ingram, kuzma, hart, KCP, and presumably picks? Yikes....

The Lakers need to be careful not to gut their roster to acquire AD. To win a title you need decent role players even when you've got LeBron as captain of the ship.

I may very well be in the minority here, but I felt good about this when I saw he went to Detroit...at least for Svi personally...but maybe I'm overlooking the differences in player development capabilities too much.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:52 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:45 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:33 am Svi is in a better situation (individually) in Detroit than he was in LA.

Reggie Bullock gets/got minutes in Detroit. Svi may likely get many/most of those because they need shooting.

Instead of Svi competing with Kuzma, Ingram, Lance, Hart, etc for minutes in LA, he will be competing with stanley Johnson, and Luke Kennard.....I'd take that 2nd situation if I were him...even though it's nicer to live in LA than Detroit.

Of course, if the Lakers would have traded for Davis (with Svi still around), Svi might have been in line to start (out of necessity).

Maybe....but that's assuming Hart and KCP went in the trade too.....which would be WAY too much for AD. That'd have been ball, Ingram, kuzma, hart, KCP, and presumably picks? Yikes....

The Lakers need to be careful not to gut their roster to acquire AD. To win a title you need decent role players even when you've got LeBron as captain of the ship.

I was mostly commenting on how the trade was metastasizing into half the roster.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:59 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:52 am

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:45 am

Of course, if the Lakers would have traded for Davis (with Svi still around), Svi might have been in line to start (out of necessity).

Maybe....but that's assuming Hart and KCP went in the trade too.....which would be WAY too much for AD. That'd have been ball, Ingram, kuzma, hart, KCP, and presumably picks? Yikes....

The Lakers need to be careful not to gut their roster to acquire AD. To win a title you need decent role players even when you've got LeBron as captain of the ship.

I was mostly commenting on how the trade was metastasizing into half the roster.

Haha ya no doubt.

I still don't understand AT ALL why they're trying to trade so much for a guy that they can get for free after next year....I do understand the LeBron window is closing....but why rush it for this year? They're not beating the Warriors, Houston, or OKC with this roster even if they get AD because their roster will be decimated to do so.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:21 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:59 am

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:52 am

Maybe....but that's assuming Hart and KCP went in the trade too.....which would be WAY too much for AD. That'd have been ball, Ingram, kuzma, hart, KCP, and presumably picks? Yikes....

The Lakers need to be careful not to gut their roster to acquire AD. To win a title you need decent role players even when you've got LeBron as captain of the ship.

I was mostly commenting on how the trade was metastasizing into half the roster.

Haha ya no doubt.

I still don't understand AT ALL why they're trying to trade so much for a guy that they can get for free after next year....I do understand the LeBron window is closing....but why rush it for this year? They're not beating the Warriors, Houston, or OKC with this roster even if they get AD because their roster will be decimated to do so.

This is GM-Bron's M.O. It's the same mentality that led to trading Wiggins for Kevin Love.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:25 pm

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:21 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:59 am

I was mostly commenting on how the trade was metastasizing into half the roster.

Haha ya no doubt.

I still don't understand AT ALL why they're trying to trade so much for a guy that they can get for free after next year....I do understand the LeBron window is closing....but why rush it for this year? They're not beating the Warriors, Houston, or OKC with this roster even if they get AD because their roster will be decimated to do so.

This is GM-Bron's M.O. It's the same mentality that led to trading Wiggins for Kevin Love.

I'm not sure LeBron has quite as much pull now....although I also think the Lakers have a better front office, so he probably doesn't need to help as much. He and Magic view each other and interact with each other much different that LeBron and the Cavs front office did.

And the Love for Wiggins trade worked out, so I don't have much problem with it, even though I see both sides of that argument. They made the finals that year and without Love they wouldn't have.

I don’t think the Lakers would have bid against themselves without Bron in Magic’s ear.

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:54 am I may very well be in the minority here, but I felt good about this when I saw he went to Detroit...at least for Svi personally...but maybe I'm overlooking the differences in player development capabilities too much.

Getting away from LBJ is a good thing.

I think reasonable minds can disagree on whether Love/Wiggins was the right decision. Certainly it worked out ok for the Cavs (although there's a healthy assist to the Draymond suspension to be noted).

Anthony Davis is awesome. But nothing could convince me that he's somehow become un-fragile. There are other options for max slots that all you have to do is pay them money. I don't think it's a great idea for the Lakers to give up more than two of Ball/Ingram/Kuzma.