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Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:12 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:27 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:11 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:47 am

No. My comment was that he was reminded to make sure he used it (or in this case remembered to use it) as a bargaining chip on the campaign trail. That would be a totally correct statement.

He should have done it because it was the right thing to do instead of doing it to win votes by declaring it ahead of time. Just pick a black woman because representation matters. It doesn't need to be said that race/gender are why you're picking a person/from a group of people. It cheapens it in my opinion, which is totally fucking unfair to whichever very deserving woman of color he chooses.
That's flat out ignorant. He decided to do it because it is the right thing to do. It also wins him votes. These two things can exist separate of each other. The fact that it wins him votes to say it out loud doesn't mean that he shouldn't do it for fear that a constant contrarian might question his motives. The fact that a white constant contrarian thinks it cheapens it to say it out loud doesn't mean that it wasn't a necessary and important thing for African American citizens of the US to hear.

No one cares whether it cheapens it for you and people like you or me. It is irrelevant.
He "used" it. That feels really slimy to me.
Of course he "used" it.
Do you feel it's as "slimy" as his opponent "using" things to cater to white supremacists to get votes?

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:56 pm
by Deleted User 863
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:12 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:27 am
twocoach wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:11 am

That's flat out ignorant. He decided to do it because it is the right thing to do. It also wins him votes. These two things can exist separate of each other. The fact that it wins him votes to say it out loud doesn't mean that he shouldn't do it for fear that a constant contrarian might question his motives. The fact that a white constant contrarian thinks it cheapens it to say it out loud doesn't mean that it wasn't a necessary and important thing for African American citizens of the US to hear.

No one cares whether it cheapens it for you and people like you or me. It is irrelevant.
He "used" it. That feels really slimy to me.
Of course he "used" it.
Do you feel it's as "slimy" as his opponent "using" things to cater to white supremacists to get votes?
Of course not.

But not sure what that has to do with anything. Like I have said, my bar for presidents is not simply "be better than Trump". That should be a given.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:13 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:56 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:12 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:27 am

He "used" it. That feels really slimy to me.
Of course he "used" it.
Do you feel it's as "slimy" as his opponent "using" things to cater to white supremacists to get votes?
Of course not.

But not sure what that has to do with anything. Like I have said, my bar for presidents is not simply "be better than Trump". That should be a given.
What it "has to do with" is my pointing out Presidential candidates are often "slimy" when they are trying to appeal to different voting groups.
Here is a crazy question to ponder. Which "demographic" do you think had the biggest influence on who won the 2020 Presidential election? I'm asking without having a definitive answer of my own.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:21 pm
by japhy
Wut?


Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:14 pm
by Mjl
I assume the thought there is simply a South Carolinian pushing for a South Carolinian.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:15 pm
by Cascadia
Mjl wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 1:14 pm I assume the thought there is simply a South Carolinian pushing for a South Carolinian.
Would Graham vote to confirm?

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:09 pm
by Mjl
I'd guess yes

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:42 pm
by Cascadia
Mjl wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:09 pmI'd guess yes
Would be extremally refreshing to see, but that would require him to defy the cheeto.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:49 pm
by defixione
This might be the vote that exiles Trump from current politics and republican policies.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:22 pm
by Overlander
defixione wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:49 pm This might be the vote that exiles Trump from current politics and republican policies.
He will be replaced immediately, and it won’t be pretty

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:26 pm
by sdoyel
Lindsey. That piece of shit.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:07 pm
by Mjl
Lindsey has voted for most of Biden's judicial nominees. I believe Murkowski is the only other Republican that has done that (though I can no longer find where I read that...)

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 9:52 pm
by zsn
Some profile in courage, that Lindsey! Taking totally non consequential positions. Although it may raise Trump’s ire

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:12 pm
by Overlander
Trump is scrambling to remain relevant.

Which makes him dangerous as long as his minions continue to roll over for his mouth breathing base

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:11 pm
by sdoyel
Overlander wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:12 pm Trump is scrambling to remain relevant.

Which makes him dangerous as long as his minions continue to roll over for his mouth breathing base
His speech the other day was dangerous.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:18 pm
by MICHHAWK
8 out of 10 people don't even know dt gave a speech the other day.

the only people that do know are the fanatics.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:19 pm
by Cascadia
Overlander wrote: Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:12 pm Trump is scrambling to remain relevant.

Which makes him dangerous as long as his minions continue to roll over for his mouth breathing base
I agree. I think he knows he's done.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:24 pm
by MICHHAWK
dt knew he was done around the middle of 2020.

Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:16 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:18 pm 8 out of 10 people don't even know dt gave a speech the other day.

the only people that do know are the fanatics.
So you are claiming 2 out of 10 people DO know he gave the speech?
If true and you were only referring to people in the Unites States, that's what? About 66 million people? 66 million "fanatics" can cause a whole lotta damage to this country.

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Re: SCOTUS

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:44 am
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:18 pm 8 out of 10 people don't even know dt gave a speech the other day.

the only people that do know are the fanatics.
I saw on the CNN website that he did but didn't bother to click on the story as I do not care what he is lying about these days.