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Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:21 am
by Deleted User 89
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:00 pm
by ousdahl
“This is a platform for a party that talks to itself, not to the rest of the country”
Yup.
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:14 am
by Deleted User 318
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:39 pm
by Mjl
Ditto.
I think it's pretty certain that Trump will have a massive lead November 3.
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:37 am
by sdoyel
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:46 am
by ousdahl
how is this not a bigger deal
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:50 am
by Deleted User 89
maybe a better question...
how is it that russian journalists found this out, but apparently not our own intelligence community?
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:53 am
by ousdahl
yeah, that may be a better question.
here's another question yet:
in the era of fake news, would Mericans be more likely to trust the credibility of Russian journalists, or of our own intelligence community?
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:05 pm
by Deleted User 310
With as many apps/sites collect detailed info from our phones/computers it isn't surprising to me at all. So many data breaches nowadays.
Probably compiling it for targeted disinformation campaings.
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:14 pm
by Deleted User 318
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:50 am
maybe a better question...
how is it that russian journalists found this out, but apparently not our own intelligence community?
Russian journalist work for the state.
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:21 pm
by sdoyel
NiceDC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:14 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:50 am
maybe a better question...
how is it that russian journalists found this out, but apparently not our own intelligence community?
Russian journalist work for the state.
The DEEP state?
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:22 pm
by Deleted User 89
NiceDC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:14 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:50 am
maybe a better question...
how is it that russian journalists found this out, but apparently not our own intelligence community?
Russian journalist work for the state.
so, you’re insinuating that this is a state-sponsored “leak” of sorts?
i didn’t look closely at this particular story or source, but surely not all russian journalists work for the kremlin, right?
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:25 pm
by Deleted User 310
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:22 pm
NiceDC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:14 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:50 am
maybe a better question...
how is it that russian journalists found this out, but apparently not our own intelligence community?
Russian journalist work for the state.
so, you’re insinuating that this is a state-sponsored “leak” of sorts?
i didn’t look closely at this particular story or source, but surely not all russian journalists work for the kremlin, right?
The ones still alive do?
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:26 pm
by Deleted User 89
i almost included such a statement
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:30 pm
by Deleted User 318
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:22 pm
NiceDC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:14 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:50 am
maybe a better question...
how is it that russian journalists found this out, but apparently not our own intelligence community?
Russian journalist work for the state.
so, you’re insinuating that this is a state-sponsored “leak” of sorts?
i didn’t look closely at this particular story or source, but surely not all russian journalists work for the kremlin, right?
My assumption is it's a destabilizing effort.
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:34 pm
by Deleted User 310
NiceDC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:30 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:22 pm
NiceDC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:14 pm
Russian journalist work for the state.
so, you’re insinuating that this is a state-sponsored “leak” of sorts?
i didn’t look closely at this particular story or source, but surely not all russian journalists work for the kremlin, right?
My assumption is it's a destabilizing effort.
Kind of what i thought...i still think it is true info being leaked, but it is probably being leaked for a reason.
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:53 am
by Deleted User 318
Cynical take. He's trying to get as many people vote multiple times, doesn't matter what side, to try and claim the result are invalid.
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:23 am
by jfish26
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:34 pm
NiceDC wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:30 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:22 pm
so, you’re insinuating that this is a state-sponsored “leak” of sorts?
i didn’t look closely at this particular story or source, but surely not all russian journalists work for the kremlin, right?
My assumption is it's a destabilizing effort.
Kind of what i thought...i still think it is true info being leaked, but it is probably being leaked for a reason.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=864&p=128025&hilit=caught#p128025
The playbook is telegraphed. The in-person vote will likely be a narrow Trump loss. Then the remote results will reveal a historic landslide.
At some point through all this, foreign actors will be "caught" manipulating the remote voting process, setting up an attempt to discredit all remote votes.
It's right here in front of you.
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:40 am
by Mjl
NiceDC wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:53 am
Cynical take. He's trying to get as many people vote multiple times, doesn't matter what side, to try and claim the result are invalid.
That's not cynical, it's the only explanation. There is absolutely no reason to fill out and send a mail-in ballot if you are still going to go in person.
Re: Trump/Republicans 2020: Suppressing Votes & Weaponizing the Government.
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:05 am
by jfish26
Mjl wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:40 am
NiceDC wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:53 am
Cynical take. He's trying to get as many people vote multiple times, doesn't matter what side, to try and claim the result are invalid.
That's not cynical, it's the only explanation. There is absolutely no reason to fill out and send a mail-in ballot if you are still going to go in person.
No less cynical, but another reason to urge this is to overwhelm polling place and discourage turnout because of long lines, confusion, etc.
It's all incredibly bad-faith, and should stain every single person in a position to speak out and avoid this, who does not.