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japhy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:59 pm I vote for #6, stoned straw man hair Gowdy.

Gowdy is totally bizarre. He will fit right in over at the White House.

yay?. The question is, why only 16?



More than a dozen prominent conservative lawyers, including George T. Conway III, offered their legal reasoning for an “expeditious” impeachment probe into President Trump, creating a document they hope will be read by Republicans who continue to stand by the president.

The 16 attorneys, many of whom worked in Republican administrations, wrote in a joint statement to be released Thursday morning that Trump’s now infamous call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, the text messages between diplomats and Trump’s public call for China to investigate a political opponent are “undisputed” events that amount to Trump violating his oath of office.

“We have not just a political candidate open to receiving foreign assistance to better his chances at winning an election, but a current president openly and privately calling on foreign governments to actively interfere in the most sacred of U.S. democratic processes, our elections,” they wrote.

...Paul Rosenzweig, who served as President George W. Bush’s deputy assistant secretary for policy at the Department on Homeland Security, said he personally would have gone further than the group’s comments, which are stern, but measured in tone.

“It strikes me that no reasonable attorney can doubt that there was a quid pro quo here,” said Rosenzweig, referring to Trump’s holding back military aid to Ukraine while requesting the country investigate a political foe.

“I would vote for impeachment, and I would vote for conviction and removal in the Senate as well,” Rosenzweig said.

...Don Ayer, who served as deputy attorney general under President George H.W. Bush, said he found it “inexplicable” that other Republicans were sticking by Trump.

“I am disgusted by the conduct of Republican senators who pose as reputable people, but shamelessly hide under rocks instead of calling out the president’s horrendous behavior as the gross misconduct that they know it to be,” he said.

...The Republicans in Congress have “been a greater disappointment to me than Trump himself,” Rosenzweig said. So far, not one has come out in support of an impeachment inquiry.

“Trump is Trump. His nature is his nature. He’s not any different than the person I knew he was going to be three years ago,” Rosenzweig said.

“But the people who I cannot hold any honor for are the Republicans. There’s lots of really smart Republicans who understand what’s at stake here. They are not stepping up and throwing a flag,” he continued. “They all know it’s wrong. They’re not idiots. They just need the courage, so if others say it first, perhaps that helps.”

[...]

Hahahahahaha:

(Maybe this belongs on the "Today In So Much Winning!", thread?)

Hahahahaha!

(This probably belongs in the "Only the Best!", thread.)

Feral wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:05 am yay?. The question is, why only 16?



More than a dozen prominent conservative lawyers, including George T. Conway III, offered their legal reasoning for an “expeditious” impeachment probe into President Trump, creating a document they hope will be read by Republicans who continue to stand by the president.

The 16 attorneys, many of whom worked in Republican administrations, wrote in a joint statement to be released Thursday morning that Trump’s now infamous call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, the text messages between diplomats and Trump’s public call for China to investigate a political opponent are “undisputed” events that amount to Trump violating his oath of office.

“We have not just a political candidate open to receiving foreign assistance to better his chances at winning an election, but a current president openly and privately calling on foreign governments to actively interfere in the most sacred of U.S. democratic processes, our elections,” they wrote.

...Paul Rosenzweig, who served as President George W. Bush’s deputy assistant secretary for policy at the Department on Homeland Security, said he personally would have gone further than the group’s comments, which are stern, but measured in tone.

“It strikes me that no reasonable attorney can doubt that there was a quid pro quo here,” said Rosenzweig, referring to Trump’s holding back military aid to Ukraine while requesting the country investigate a political foe.

“I would vote for impeachment, and I would vote for conviction and removal in the Senate as well,” Rosenzweig said.

...Don Ayer, who served as deputy attorney general under President George H.W. Bush, said he found it “inexplicable” that other Republicans were sticking by Trump.

“I am disgusted by the conduct of Republican senators who pose as reputable people, but shamelessly hide under rocks instead of calling out the president’s horrendous behavior as the gross misconduct that they know it to be,” he said.

...The Republicans in Congress have “been a greater disappointment to me than Trump himself,” Rosenzweig said. So far, not one has come out in support of an impeachment inquiry.

“Trump is Trump. His nature is his nature. He’s not any different than the person I knew he was going to be three years ago,” Rosenzweig said.

“But the people who I cannot hold any honor for are the Republicans. There’s lots of really smart Republicans who understand what’s at stake here. They are not stepping up and throwing a flag,” he continued. “They all know it’s wrong. They’re not idiots. They just need the courage, so if others say it first, perhaps that helps.”

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These are all good points, but I’m trying to decide just how surprising it really is.

I mean, yeah, Trump is Trump, and his bullshit in that sense is not that surprising. The surprising part is how republicans have continued to shrug it all off, and offer him their support no matter how much it may contradict their “values.”

But is it really that surprising? Have republicans tended toward any less than party-over-country, zero sum, win at all costs, even if it means doubling down on Trump?

To (shamelessly) quote myself: "Hahahahahaha!"

It turns out that Giuliani's Florida business men friends were scheduled to give depositions to congress today as part of the impeachment investigation, but were arrested at Dulles airport last night, before boarding an international flight out of the country.

How long before Trump throws Rudy under the bus?

And, how would you like to be (former) republican congressman Pete Sessions, who is running in a new Tx. congressional district, after getting his ass handed to him in 2018?

Feral wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:12 am To (shamelessly) quote myself: "Hahahahahaha!"

It turns out that Giuliani's Florida business men friends were scheduled to give depositions to congress today as part of the impeachment investigation, but were arrested at Dulles airport last night, before boarding an international flight out of the country.

That's not a good look.

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:27 am

Feral wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:12 am To (shamelessly) quote myself: "Hahahahahaha!"

It turns out that Giuliani's Florida business men friends were scheduled to give depositions to congress today as part of the impeachment investigation, but were arrested at Dulles airport last night, before boarding an international flight out of the country.

That's not a good look.

Watch the "Deep State" make up some phony charge like consciousness of guilt,

or something.

Feral wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:52 am Hahahahaha!

(This probably belongs in the "Only the Best!", thread.)

Clearly this is the Deep State at work, trying to keep some people from enjoying much needed vacation time. OK, one-way tickets is a bit strange, but...

Trump should switch to Nike; their bag men are a lot better at hiding illegal payments.

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:32 pm Trump should switch to Nike; their bag men are a lot better at hiding illegal payments.

ban?

I don't know Co. Senator Cory Gardner from Oleg Deripaska, but knowing that he is in serious peril in the 2020 election in an ever-more purplish state, the tac he takes in response to this question certainly surprised me. But I guess like Trump, he figures hanging onto his base is his best way forward.

How long before Trump tells us he doesn't know Rudy Giuliani?