Kansas Crimson

Smart blew this game.
Three turnovers in the last two minutes.

Tatum was running free down the right sideline with his hand up on the last play and Smart didn't pass to him.

Smarts been good for them but it’s well known up here that he’s had issues on and off with Tatum for a while.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 8:41 pm

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 8:40 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 8:39 pm

Dumb.
Bad coaching.

Why not just throw it in to Tatum?

Yup.
Or Brown who was feeling it tonight.
Dumb.

Noticed on the replay Tatum was wide open on the far side.

Smart has been huge for them all season, but had some big errors late.

twocoach wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 8:44 pm Tatum was running free down the right sideline with his hand up on the last play and Smart didn't pass to him.

I think Smart had every intention to pass once he get past half court, he just never got the chance.

That did not seem like a charge on Wiggins to me.

If you’re a head coach in the NBA, don’t play cute ( unless you’re Pop ).

It’s a league of stars.
Get the ball in your star’s hands at the end.

pdub wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 8:56 pm If you’re a head coach in the NBA, don’t play cute ( unless you’re Pop ).

It’s a league of stars.
Get the ball in your star’s hands at the end.

Especially because it's not like Tatum doesn't have a good handle. It's harder when your best player is Embiid who doesn't usually bring the ball up...but Tatum should have gotten it immediately.

Tatum has to go get that inbounds pass instead of running straight sideways, which allowed him to be easily guarded.

Interesting that basically every team left in the playoffs was mostly built and not bought.

Buying teams works for a very short window. Like 1 or 2 years. But it's unsustainable.

The warriors. Yikes.

I went to bed.
What happened??

pdub wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 5:56 am I went to bed.
What happened??

Ass beating from beginning to end. Memphis was on fire. GS couldn't stop turning the ball over.

Celts/Bucks game was great - despite my not liking the outcome but......3 of the last 4 NBA playoff games were decided by 30 or more points. 30, 35, and 39 points.
Moral of the story is.... Whenever I think the NBA is a good "product", I get a slap in the face reminder it's not.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 11, 2022 9:09 pm Interesting that basically every team left in the playoffs was mostly built and not bought.

Buying teams works for a very short window. Like 1 or 2 years. But it's unsustainable.

That's a nice thought, but is it true? I think there's a very fine line between built and bought. Bucks brought in a lot of new guys the last few years. Miami added Lowry and Butler. 4 of Philly's top 6 weren't drafted. Phoenix was getting the #1 pick before Chris Paul got added.

Plus, how would you categorize recent champs when it comes to built and bought? Bucks I've mentioned.
Lakers is obvious. Raptors had to go out and add players to get over the hump. Warriors had a lot of their own drafted guys, but I don't think it can be ignored that all 3 Finals MVPs for them were players brought in.

When it comes to being a championship contender, buying is part of the building.

Key pieces drafted by each team:

Bucks: Giannis, Middleton, could add guys like Connaughton

Miami: Bam, Herro, Straus (i think)

Philly: Embiid, Maxey...and Harden wasn't bought (trades are different than dumping players for FA signings).

GS: Steph, Klay, Dray, Poole

Boston: Smart, Tatum, Brown, Williams

Memphis: pretty much everyone except Adams right?

Dallas: Doncic, Brunson

Suns: booker, ayton, cam johnson


I guess my overall point was more that buying up free agents and totally abandoning the future doesn't work for very long. The Lakers are the main team I am thinking of. Brooklyn to an extent.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 11:30 am Key pieces drafted by each team:

Bucks: Giannis, Middleton, could add guys like Connaughton

Miami: Bam, Herro, Straus (i think)

Philly: Embiid, Maxey...and Harden wasn't bought (trades are different than dumping players for FA signings).

GS: Steph, Klay, Dray, Poole

Boston: Smart, Tatum, Brown, Williams

Memphis: pretty much everyone except Adams right?

Dallas: Doncic, Brunson

Suns: booker, ayton, cam johnson


I guess my overall point was more that buying up free agents and totally abandoning the future doesn't work for very long. The Lakers are the main team I am thinking of. Brooklyn to an extent.

Middleton and Connaughton weren't drafted by the Bucks.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 11:30 am (trades are different than dumping players for FA signings).

I guess my overall point was more that buying up free agents and totally abandoning the future doesn't work for very long. The Lakers are the main team I am thinking of.

But the Lakers assembled their team through trades, so which is it? Did they build or buy?

NDballer13 wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 12:38 pm

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 11:30 am (trades are different than dumping players for FA signings).

I guess my overall point was more that buying up free agents and totally abandoning the future doesn't work for very long. The Lakers are the main team I am thinking of.

But the Lakers assembled their team through trades, so which is it? Did they build or buy?

LeBron?

In my opinion the Lakers bought. They traded all their young talent/draft picks away for injury prone AD and aging Westbrook.

The Lakers have almost nobody worth a shit that they drafted.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 11:59 am
Middleton and Connaughton weren't drafted by the Bucks.

Forgot Middleton had 1 year in Detroit (27 games).