DNC

[JKLivin]

As I said in another reply, I thought Trump MADE it fair by refusing to answer the loaded questions they posed

Examples of loaded questions please.

I don’t have the time or the inclination to comb through the debate transcripts. And let’s be honest, you’re just looking for things to contradict anyway.

[japhy]

Chicago really did great as a venue. Gutter, you should be proud.

Your words mean a lot!
Really proud of my cousin (I stand corrected-actual title was Chair of Chicago DNC Host Committee) and those I worked with and for in regards to the convention.
Kudos to the Chicago Police and all out of town law enforcement!
All told, outstanding jobs by so many people on so many levels.
Last night at the party I was standing outside on a balcony around midnight overlooking the city from a west view. Said to myself, what a great city and what a nice job presenting itself on a national and world stage.
P.S. Yes, I have referred to the city as a shithole in the past. 99% of the time due to crime. Crime is in fact a problem in Chicago but that’s pretty much true of any and every city in the USA.

Chicago is and has been for decades one of the greatest cities in the world. My sisters and I were watching the DNC coverage and texting. I go up there for business or to visit family on a semi-regular basis, my sisters not so much. But every summer as kids we would spend a week or two up there with my grandmother on the South Side. Taking the bus every day t the LOOP. Going to Czech bakeries for poppyseed cake. Wandering through Marshall Fields or one of the museums. Dinner at Miller's Pub. None of my sibs have been there since Millennium Park was built. We agreed that we need to all meet up there next summer, spend a long weekend, take in the symphony playing in the park.

Never take the City for granted Gutter, it is an incredible place.

Hog Butcher for the World,
Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat,
Player with Railroads and the Nation's Freight
Handler;
Stormy, husky, brawling,
City of the Big Shoulders:
They tell me you are wicked and I believe them, for I
have seen your painted women under the gas lamps
luring the farm boys.
And they tell me you are crooked and I answer: Yes, it
is true I have seen the gunman kill and go free to
kill again.
And they tell me you are brutal and my reply is: On the
faces of women and children I have seen the marks
of wanton hunger.
And having answered so I turn once more to those who
sneer at this my city, and I give them back the sneer
and say to them:
Come and show me another city with lifted head singing
so proud to be alive and coarse and strong and cun-
ning.
Flinging magnetic curses amid the toil of piling job on
job, here is a tall bold slugger set vivid against the
little soft cities;
Fierce as a dog with tongue lapping for action, cunning
as a savage pitted against the wilderness,
Bareheaded,
Shoveling,
Wrecking,
Planning,
Building, breaking, rebuilding,
Under the smoke, dust all over his mouth, laughing with
white teeth,
Under the terrible burden of destiny laughing as a young
man laughs,
Laughing even as an ignorant fighter laughs who has
never lost a battle,
Bragging and laughing that under his wrist is the pulse,
and under his ribs the heart of the people,
Laughing!
Laughing the stormy, husky, brawling laughter of
Youth, half-naked, sweating, proud to be Hog
Butcher, Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat, Player with
Railroads and Freight Handler to the Nation.

And fuck anyone who says otherwise!

[twocoach]

I would like to see them debate as well. I do agree with Trump in avoiding a stacked deck. The "mainstream" media has proven time and again that they won't play fair, and, I believe Giggles declined to participate in a debate on his terms, which is wise, because every time she opens her mouth, we see, yet again, that there is very little going on in her head.

Cool story.

I, on the other hand, actually remember CNN lobbing softball after softball at Trump while allowing him to spew a firehose of lies without being called on it at all in the debate vs. Joe Biden.

So yeah, miss me with your made up BS.

I wasn't referring to the CNN debate. It is evident from the interviews he grants that they are not going to play fair. Trump demolished Biden because he refused to answer the questions they posed and provided the answers to questions he wanted to be asked. I thought it was a pretty solid strategy, and it obviously worked.

Speaking of spewing lies, Giggles has an atrocious track record to work from and has failed miserably at the one job she had, which was as Border Czar. She lies every time she opens her mouth and tries to reframe her performance as positive in any way.

Asking him to answer for his vile statements, poor decisions and criminal actions isn't "unfair". It's just uncomfortable for him.

[jfish26]

Sorta like how it’s not “weaponization of the Justice Department” to be prosecuted for real crimes with manifest probable cause supporting charges.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

Chicago really did great as a venue. Gutter, you should be proud.

Your words mean a lot!
Really proud of my cousin (I stand corrected-actual title was Chair of Chicago DNC Host Committee) and those I worked with and for in regards to the convention.
Kudos to the Chicago Police and all out of town law enforcement!
All told, outstanding jobs by so many people on so many levels.
Last night at the party I was standing outside on a balcony around midnight overlooking the city from a west view. Said to myself, what a great city and what a nice job presenting itself on a national and world stage.
P.S. Yes, I have referred to the city as a shithole in the past. 99% of the time due to crime. Crime is in fact a problem in Chicago but that’s pretty much true of any and every city in the USA.

Chicago is and has been for decades one of the greatest cities in the world. My sisters and I were watching the DNC coverage and texting. I go up there for business or to visit family on a semi-regular basis, my sisters not so much. But every summer as kids we would spend a week or two up there with my grandmother on the South Side. Taking the bus every day t the LOOP. Going to Czech bakeries for poppyseed cake. Wandering through Marshall Fields or one of the museums. Dinner at Miller's Pub. None of my sibs have been there since Millennium Park was built. We agreed that we need to all meet up there next summer, spend a long weekend, take in the symphony playing in the park.

Never take the City for granted Gutter, it is an incredible place.

Hog Butcher for the World,
Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat,
Player with Railroads and the Nation's Freight
Handler;
Stormy, husky, brawling,
City of the Big Shoulders:
They tell me you are wicked and I believe them, for I
have seen your painted women under the gas lamps
luring the farm boys.
And they tell me you are crooked and I answer: Yes, it
is true I have seen the gunman kill and go free to
kill again.
And they tell me you are brutal and my reply is: On the
faces of women and children I have seen the marks
of wanton hunger.
And having answered so I turn once more to those who
sneer at this my city, and I give them back the sneer
and say to them:
Come and show me another city with lifted head singing
so proud to be alive and coarse and strong and cun-
ning.
Flinging magnetic curses amid the toil of piling job on
job, here is a tall bold slugger set vivid against the
little soft cities;
Fierce as a dog with tongue lapping for action, cunning
as a savage pitted against the wilderness,
Bareheaded,
Shoveling,
Wrecking,
Planning,
Building, breaking, rebuilding,
Under the smoke, dust all over his mouth, laughing with
white teeth,
Under the terrible burden of destiny laughing as a young
man laughs,
Laughing even as an ignorant fighter laughs who has
never lost a battle,
Bragging and laughing that under his wrist is the pulse,
and under his ribs the heart of the people,
Laughing!
Laughing the stormy, husky, brawling laughter of
Youth, half-naked, sweating, proud to be Hog
Butcher, Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat, Player with
Railroads and Freight Handler to the Nation.

And fuck anyone who says otherwise!

You have shared some of those (your) memories with me and they make me smile.
The good not so old days, where there are common fond memories such as Marshall Fields (and looking at their Christmas windows and dining in The Oak Room) that many people from all different walks of life recall fondly.
My biggest regret in regards to living in Chicago is that I don't take advantage of so much that the city has to offer. So many neighborhoods, so much diversity.
I'm often just stuck in my 2 square mile radius bubble. Which there is plenty of offer, but there is SOOOOO much more to experience and do outside of it.

P.S. My co-worker just left the office to go to her home in..... Sandburg Village.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

On another note.
A co-worker of mine who is related to a very famous Chicagoan attended many parties over the past week. Many that "the public" had no knowledge of.
He said this was one of the better ones and this is an interesting detailed article in regards to it....

https://sfstandard.com/2024/08/21/chris ... breed-dnc/

[japhy]

You have shared some of those (your) memories with me and they make me smile.
The good not so old days, where there are common fond memories such as Marshall Fields (and looking at their Christmas windows and dining in The Oak Room) that many people from all different walks of life recall fondly.
My biggest regret in regards to living in Chicago is that I don't take advantage of so much that the city has to offer. So many neighborhoods, so much diversity.
I'm often just stuck in my 2 square mile radius bubble. Which there is plenty of offer, but there is SOOOOO much more to experience and do outside of it.

P.S. My co-worker just left the office to go to her home in..... Sandburg Village.

The Oak Room! As a kid we seriously never ate anywhere in KC fancier than McDonald's or the local version, Smaks. But when we went to Chicago we had lunch one day on every trip at The Oak Room. It was the grandest most elegant place on the planet to us as kids. I suppose it is gone now.

My last trip up I spent a lot time in the Pilsen neighborhood where my daughter lived. I love that area.

[RainbowsandUnicorns]

You have shared some of those (your) memories with me and they make me smile.
The good not so old days, where there are common fond memories such as Marshall Fields (and looking at their Christmas windows and dining in The Oak Room) that many people from all different walks of life recall fondly.
My biggest regret in regards to living in Chicago is that I don't take advantage of so much that the city has to offer. So many neighborhoods, so much diversity.
I'm often just stuck in my 2 square mile radius bubble. Which there is plenty of offer, but there is SOOOOO much more to experience and do outside of it.

P.S. My co-worker just left the office to go to her home in..... Sandburg Village.

The Oak Room! As a kid we seriously never ate anywhere in KC fancier than McDonald's or the local version, Smaks. But when we went to Chicago we had lunch one day on every trip at The Oak Room. It was the grandest most elegant place on the planet to us as kids. I suppose it is gone now.

My last trip up I spent a lot time in the Pilsen neighborhood where my daughter lived. I love that area.

DAMN!!! I must be tired. I meant The Walnut Room but I am confident that's what you are referring to.
Yes, still there but Marshall Fields on State Street became a Macy's many years ago.
I like that you refer to Pilsen as the Pilsen neighborhood because it is the epitome of a very proud Chicago neighborhood and an example of Chicago's diversity.
While I feel fortunate to live in the area I do, it lacks the diverse culture that so many other neighborhoods have.

[jhawks99]

Smaks was allsome. There was one within walking distance of my house. Fifteen cent hamburgers. I can remember scrounging around my room with a dime and a nickel in my pocket looking for two pennies for tax.

[japhy]

You have shared some of those (your) memories with me and they make me smile.
The good not so old days, where there are common fond memories such as Marshall Fields (and looking at their Christmas windows and dining in The Oak Room) that many people from all different walks of life recall fondly.
My biggest regret in regards to living in Chicago is that I don't take advantage of so much that the city has to offer. So many neighborhoods, so much diversity.
I'm often just stuck in my 2 square mile radius bubble. Which there is plenty of offer, but there is SOOOOO much more to experience and do outside of it.

P.S. My co-worker just left the office to go to her home in..... Sandburg Village.

The Oak Room! As a kid we seriously never ate anywhere in KC fancier than McDonald's or the local version, Smaks. But when we went to Chicago we had lunch one day on every trip at The Oak Room. It was the grandest most elegant place on the planet to us as kids. I suppose it is gone now.

My last trip up I spent a lot time in the Pilsen neighborhood where my daughter lived. I love that area.

DAMN!!! I must be tired. I meant The Walnut Room but I am confident that's what you are referring to.
Yes, still there but Marshall Fields on State Street became a Macy's many years ago.
I like that you refer to Pilsen as the Pilsen neighborhood because it is the epitome of a very proud Chicago neighborhood and an example of Chicago's diversity.
While I feel fortunate to live in the area I do, it lacks the diverse culture that so many other neighborhoods have.

I have been inside since it was Macy's but haven't been up to the Walnut Room. I just like to walk through art street level and look up through the floors to the skylights. Carson Pirie Scott has the incredible Louis Sullivan terra cotta but nothing compares to Fields. My grandparents lived in Ashburn and in Morgan Park. At one point I talked my wife into looking at condos in Edgewater and Rogers Park but the city exhausted her. The fact that we greed to retire in the San Luis Valley is laughable when I think about the other options we researched. But we have agreed to visit Chicago regularly for me and Duluth regularly for her and everyone gets their taste of their favorite Great Lake city.

And Smaks.....I member there were hats or shirts or something with the "Smaky Seal of Approval". They disappeared about the same time as Katz Drugstores.

Don't mind me, I am told and just ramble on about stuff that isn't here any more.

Except for Chicago, it is still there.

[pdub]

As I said in another reply, I thought Trump MADE it fair by refusing to answer the loaded questions they posed

Examples of loaded questions please.

I don’t have the time or the inclination to comb through the debate transcripts. And let’s be honest, you’re just looking for things to contradict anyway.

So no actual meat to the meal again.
Another plate of bullshit.

[JKLivin]

Examples of loaded questions please.

I don’t have the time or the inclination to comb through the debate transcripts. And let’s be honest, you’re just looking for things to contradict anyway.

So no actual meat to the meal again.
Another plate of bullshit.

Whatever.

[KUTradition]

[KUTradition]

the cnn “undecided voter” panel that was interviewed after Harris’ speech included an apparent maga plant…the one member that gave her a “C” for her speech (rather than A or B), and the only one who said they were now voting for trump

[JKLivin]

the cnn “undecided voter” panel that was interviewed after Harris’ speech included an individual who wasn’t a moron…the one member that gave her a “C” for her speech (rather than A or B), and the only one who said they were now voting for trump

FYP

[JKLivin]

Yep. Like I’m gonna go digging through a debate transcript, go to the trouble of building an argument, and then have him say “Nope. You’re an idiot/racist/xenophobe/asshole.”

He’s gonna say it either way, so I’ll save myself the work and aggravation.

[KUTradition]

you’re like a failing version of the little engine that could…”A” for effort, i guess

[KUTradition]

it’s ok

you can take solace in the fact that Kamala will still be a president for YOU, despite your bigotry and misogyny

[JKLivin]

you’re like a failing version of the little engine that could…”A” for effort, i guess

Work smart. Words to live by.

[Sparko]

the cnn “undecided voter” panel that was interviewed after Harris’ speech included an apparent maga plant…the one member that gave her a “C” for her speech (rather than A or B), and the only one who said they were now voting for trump

Huge MAGA nut. 6 January fan and social media troll for nutty MAGA stuff. They always get one zombie in the door