Kansas Crimson

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:10 pm So is CB the best/most impactful State of Kansas player on a title team here?

I don't think Danny counts.

randylahey wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:58 pm honestly hes a good fit to be an off guard in the league. has all the tools. Im betting he goes late 1st round this season and extended NBA career as a role player

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:38 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:58 pm honestly hes a good fit to be an off guard in the league. has all the tools. Im betting he goes late 1st round this season and extended NBA career as a role player

And the nice part about going late in the 1st is that you probably end up with a playoff caliber, well-functioning franchise vs. the damn Sacramento Kings.

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:53 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:38 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:58 pm honestly hes a good fit to be an off guard in the league. has all the tools. Im betting he goes late 1st round this season and extended NBA career as a role player

And the nice part about going late in the 1st is that you probably end up with a playoff caliber, well-functioning franchise vs. the damn Sacramento Kings.

good point. dont bring up sacramento lol its where jayhawk careers go to die. wonder what kind of difference it wouldve made for trob or mclemore if they started somewhere else

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:53 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:38 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:58 pm honestly hes a good fit to be an off guard in the league. has all the tools. Im betting he goes late 1st round this season and extended NBA career as a role player

And the nice part about going late in the 1st is that you probably end up with a playoff caliber, well-functioning franchise vs. the damn Sacramento Kings.

good point. dont bring up sacramento lol its where jayhawk careers go to die. wonder what kind of difference it wouldve made for trob or mclemore if they started somewhere else

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:18 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:53 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:38 am

And the nice part about going late in the 1st is that you probably end up with a playoff caliber, well-functioning franchise vs. the damn Sacramento Kings.

good point. dont bring up sacramento lol its where jayhawk careers go to die. wonder what kind of difference it wouldve made for trob or mclemore if they started somewhere else

McLemore could have used another year in school to work on ballhandling. That is the main reason he has been unsuccessful. He is an awful ballhandler for a 2 guard by NBA standards.

I think TRob not being a very good defender held him back. And he came along right when "power forward" was dying off. He can't stretch the floor very well because he isn't a 3pt threat.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:04 am Someone should buy them and move them back to KC and run them right.

pdub wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:07 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:04 am Someone should buy them and move them back to KC and run them right.

I know two candidates on this bored up for it.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:05 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:18 pm

randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:53 pm

good point. dont bring up sacramento lol its where jayhawk careers go to die. wonder what kind of difference it wouldve made for trob or mclemore if they started somewhere else

McLemore could have used another year in school to work on ballhandling. That is the main reason he has been unsuccessful. He is an awful ballhandler for a 2 guard by NBA standards.

I think TRob not being a very good defender held him back. And he came along right when "power forward" was dying off. He can't stretch the floor very well because he isn't a 3pt threat.

Things are teachable at the NBA level unless you get drafted by a shitty franchise who constantly hires shitty coaches and who suck at developing players. The list of players who became good AFTER leaving the Sacramento Kings is long. Bigs can learn to shoot threes and guards can learn to handle the ball better.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:14 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:05 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 28, 2022 7:18 pm

McLemore could have used another year in school to work on ballhandling. That is the main reason he has been unsuccessful. He is an awful ballhandler for a 2 guard by NBA standards.

I think TRob not being a very good defender held him back. And he came along right when "power forward" was dying off. He can't stretch the floor very well because he isn't a 3pt threat.

Things are teachable at the NBA level unless you get drafted by a shitty franchise who constantly hires shitty coaches and who suck at developing players. The list of players who became good AFTER leaving the Sacramento Kings is long. Bigs can learn to shoot threes and guards can learn to handle the ball better.

What long list of players left the Kings and got way better? Fox Haliburton Hield have done just fine. I am not solely blaming Sacramento for the failures of TRob and Ben. Even though we all agree it's a shitty franchise. Not everyone gets to play for the warriors or Spurs.

In McLemores specific instance, i think he would have benefited from playing in games at KU.

Yes, you can work on dribbling drills in the NBA too....but if you're not getting to do it in games then it is harder to improve imo. Also, maybe maturity wise and work ethic wise he could have benefited from more time at KU. Nobody will hold your hand in the NBA. A lot of the work is done on your own.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:18 am

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:14 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:05 am
Things are teachable at the NBA level unless you get drafted by a shitty franchise who constantly hires shitty coaches and who suck at developing players. The list of players who became good AFTER leaving the Sacramento Kings is long. Bigs can learn to shoot threes and guards can learn to handle the ball better.

What long list of players left the Kings and got way better? Fox Haliburton Hield have done just fine. I am not solely blaming Sacramento for the failures of TRob and Ben. Even though we all agree it's a shitty franchise. Not everyone gets to play for the warriors or Spurs.

In McLemores specific instance, i think he would have benefited from playing in games at KU.

Yes, you can work on dribbling drills in the NBA too....but if you're not getting to do it in games then it is harder to improve imo. Also, maybe maturity wise and work ethic wise he could have benefited from more time at KU. Nobody will hold your hand in the NBA. A lot of the work is done on your own.

The vast majority of improvement is made in practice. This notion that you need game minutes to improve is ridiculous.

BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 7:58 pm Low ceiling!