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randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:40 am The same people that want gun control probably supported sending ar15s to ukraine and arming all those citizens. All the guns in the United States are a huge reason no foreign enemy has ever invaded us. It's our best line of defense against an invading enemy, foreign or domestic.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:44 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:38 am By the way handguns make up the majority of guns in this country, the majority of gun deaths in this country, and even the majority of "mass shootings" (shootings involving 6 or more people) in this country.

But restricting the higher powered guns has nothing to do with saving lives or safety, those guns make up the minority of gun violence in this country. It's about the government having control, and taking away civilians strongest defense is the first step

They just brainwash people into supporting gun control using those talking points, which obviously works listening to you guys

Restricting access to military style assault rifles and high capacity magazines is intended to try to reduce mass shooting incidents where large amounts of people uninvolved in an incident are targeted to be murdered.
Restricting access to any weapons, be they handguns or long guns, by people with known mental health issues or documented domestic violence cases/situations is intended to cut down on the total volume of deaths by guns, including those by handguns.

This just isn't that complicated to understand. Putting seatbelts in cars wasn't about controlling the public. Nor are speed limits. Not are drunk driving restrictions, etc... it is an effort to address a problem where citizens are proving unable to control or avoid the problems themselves.

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:47 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:40 am The same people that want gun control probably supported sending ar15s to ukraine and arming all those citizens. All the guns in the United States are a huge reason no foreign enemy has ever invaded us. It's our best line of defense against an invading enemy, foreign or domestic.

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:48 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:44 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:38 am By the way handguns make up the majority of guns in this country, the majority of gun deaths in this country, and even the majority of "mass shootings" (shootings involving 6 or more people) in this country.

But restricting the higher powered guns has nothing to do with saving lives or safety, those guns make up the minority of gun violence in this country. It's about the government having control, and taking away civilians strongest defense is the first step

They just brainwash people into supporting gun control using those talking points, which obviously works listening to you guys

Restricting access to military style assault rifles and high capacity magazines is intended to try to reduce mass shooting incidents where large amounts of people uninvolved in an incident are targeted to be murdered.
Restricting access to any weapons, be they handguns or long guns, by people with known mental health issues or documented domestic violence cases/situations is intended to cut down on the total volume of deaths by guns, including those by handguns.

This just isn't that complicated to understand. Putting seatbelts in cars wasn't about controlling the public. Nor are speed limits. Not are drunk driving restrictions, etc... it is an effort to address a problem where citizens are proving unable to control or avoid the problems themselves.

Handguns are responsible for significantly more gun deaths and more mass shootings. Fact check it. Significantly more.

It's not about logic or safety. It's about control. Just consider that.

If our government cared about our safety, we wouldn't sell food with preservatives that are banned in other countries

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:48 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:47 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:40 am The same people that want gun control probably supported sending ar15s to ukraine and arming all those citizens. All the guns in the United States are a huge reason no foreign enemy has ever invaded us. It's our best line of defense against an invading enemy, foreign or domestic.

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

Do you not know how this country was made?

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:34 am Now you're just backpedaling. AR is short for armalite. Not assault rifle. No gun is actually named assault rifle. Your "in the name" comment was wrong. That's just a generic term used to scare people. Propaganda

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:53 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:48 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:47 am

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

Do you not know how this country was made?

Do you not realize that the capabilities of our current US military are a bit more advanced than that of the British Army in 17 fucking 76 ?

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:47 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:40 am The same people that want gun control probably supported sending ar15s to ukraine and arming all those citizens. All the guns in the United States are a huge reason no foreign enemy has ever invaded us. It's our best line of defense against an invading enemy, foreign or domestic.

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

KUTradition wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:58 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:53 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:48 am

Do you not know how this country was made?

Do you not realize that the capabilities of our current US military are a bit more advanced than that of the British Army in 17 fucking 76 ?

nope

randi’s with their ARs are all that’s keeping us from a vlad or kim attack

it’s so obvious lol

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:59 am

twocoach wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:47 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:40 am The same people that want gun control probably supported sending ar15s to ukraine and arming all those citizens. All the guns in the United States are a huge reason no foreign enemy has ever invaded us. It's our best line of defense against an invading enemy, foreign or domestic.

Guns owned by citizens are not at all the reason people don't invade the US. Don't just make shot up because it sounds good. A buncha untrained idiots with guns accomplishes nothing but becoming collateral damage when the actual trained professionals show up to handle things. JFC, that has to be the dumbest fucking thing I have ever read.

The Pacific and Atlantic oceans say hello.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:09 am we could solve almost all of our most pressing issues/problems i.e. gun violence, southern border lunacy

if we cut in half. uncles budget for war mongoring around the world. just cut it in half. and use those funds here.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 10:11 am i went with gun violence and southern border lunacy because they are the top two topics of interest today in the pols forum.

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:34 am Now you're just backpedaling. AR is short for armalite. Not assault rifle. No gun is actually named assault rifle. Your "in the name" comment was wrong. That's just a generic term used to scare people. Propaganda

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:38 am By the way handguns make up the majority of guns in this country, the majority of gun deaths in this country, and even the majority of "mass shootings" (shootings involving 6 or more people) in this country.

But restricting the higher powered guns has nothing to do with saving lives or safety, those guns make up the minority of gun violence in this country. It's about the government having control, and taking away civilians strongest defense is the first step

They just brainwash people into supporting gun control using those talking points, which obviously works listening to you guys

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:00 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:38 am By the way handguns make up the majority of guns in this country, the majority of gun deaths in this country, and even the majority of "mass shootings" (shootings involving 6 or more people) in this country.

But restricting the higher powered guns has nothing to do with saving lives or safety, those guns make up the minority of gun violence in this country. It's about the government having control, and taking away civilians strongest defense is the first step

They just brainwash people into supporting gun control using those talking points, which obviously works listening to you guys

JFC!

You're a moron!

Let me ask you a question. I walk in to your house. You have 50 guests in your house. I want to shoot and kill you and all 50 of your guests.
I have a handgun with 12 bullets/rounds and I have a "higher powered gun" with 100 bullets/rounds.
Which do you think you and your 50 guests stand a better chance of surviving?

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 11:00 am

randylahey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:38 am By the way handguns make up the majority of guns in this country, the majority of gun deaths in this country, and even the majority of "mass shootings" (shootings involving 6 or more people) in this country.

But restricting the higher powered guns has nothing to do with saving lives or safety, those guns make up the minority of gun violence in this country. It's about the government having control, and taking away civilians strongest defense is the first step

They just brainwash people into supporting gun control using those talking points, which obviously works listening to you guys

JFC!

You're a moron!

Let me ask you a question. I walk in to your house. You have 50 guests in your house. I want to shoot and kill you and all 50 of your guests.
I have a handgun with 12 bullets/rounds and I have a "higher powered gun" with 100 bullets/rounds.
Which do you think you and your 50 guests stand a better chance of surviving?