Re: who ya got?
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:13 pm
He is fucked.
For the “lesser of 2 evils” folks:
Good grief.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:19 amThat was just in California, right?
They would need a shit ton more than they put out in Cali for it to matter.
Right. You don't need to manipulate many votes themselves in order to manipulate the outcome. What they're doing - and god damn it was it predictable and obvious - is trying to create an impression of the unreliability of the count.twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:23 amGood grief.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:19 amThat was just in California, right?
They would need a shit ton more than they put out in Cali for it to matter.
That's all we've heard about. How about the placing of only one ballot box to service hundreds of thousands of people in different counties in Texas?IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:19 amThat was just in California, right?
They would need a shit ton more than they put out in Cali for it to matter.
I do take some heart - if the GOP has to pull of this sort of bullshit in Texas, it's cooked.defixione wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:32 amThat's all we've heard about. How about the placing of only one ballot box to service hundreds of thousands of people in different counties in Texas?IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:19 amThat was just in California, right?
They would need a shit ton more than they put out in Cali for it to matter.
Record turnout for early voting in Texas. Less than three weeks until shit gets really interesting.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:34 amI do take some heart - if the GOP has to pull of this sort of bullshit in Texas, it's cooked.defixione wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:32 amThat's all we've heard about. How about the placing of only one ballot box to service hundreds of thousands of people in different counties in Texas?IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:19 am
That was just in California, right?
They would need a shit ton more than they put out in Cali for it to matter.
The last time West Virginia went for a Democratic presidential candidate was 1996, when Bill Clinton carried the state. Since then, WV has been:
2000: Bush +6
2004: Bush +13
2008: McCain +12
2012: Romney +27
2016: Trump +42
This is the baseline for understanding what has been happening in West Virginia over the last 20 years. Looking at the state you can almost see the old Democratic coalition falling apart and white non-college voters shifting to the GOP.
For totally mysterious reasons that no one could possibly understand, that shift accelerated following the election of Barack Obama, with Republicans pulling in an extra net 15 points in each of the next two cycles.
I’m interested in West Virginia because if the national Biden-Trump numbers are real, then we ought to see some reflection of them even in West Virginia, because Biden’s lead is due, in part, to his re-capturing of parts of the old Democratic coalition and better performance with white working-class voters.
And sure enough:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/po ... -virginia/
I am not saying that West Virginia is in play.
But I am here to tell you that if Trump is really only +23 in West Virginia right now, then November 3 is going to be an absolute bloodbath for Republicans. Because it means that all of the demographic trends we’re seeing in the national numbers—Biden’s strength with seniors, Biden’s strength with non-college white women, Biden’s strength with all college-educated voters—are so real that they’re cutting 45 percent out of Trump’s margin in a homogenous state where neither side is playing.
There is a reason that the 538 model now has the single most likely outcome as Biden winning more than 400 electoral votes.
It only takes one example to sow distrust in the entire system. It is as much about making voters question whether to even bother to vote as it is to steal actual votes.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:31 amRight. You don't need to manipulate many votes themselves in order to manipulate the outcome. What they're doing - and god damn it was it predictable and obvious - is trying to create an impression of the unreliability of the count.twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:23 amGood grief.IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:19 am
That was just in California, right?
They would need a shit ton more than they put out in Cali for it to matter.
Of course, the insane early-voting numbers seem to suggest this message has not taken root.twocoach wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:21 pmIt only takes one example to sow distrust in the entire system. It is as much about making voters question whether to even bother to vote as it is to steal actual votes.