Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:20 pm
Sure, we would have been better with can't miss future NBA players at every single position. Unfortunately we don't have a single one of those on our roster this year or next year.
Sure, we would have been better with can't miss future NBA players at every single position. Unfortunately we don't have a single one of those on our roster this year or next year.
I don't disagree much at all with that.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:19 pmIf Jalen's talent and skill level scream "rotation player" then all of our guys talent and skill level scream "rotation player".CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:14 pmI didn't understand it would be that hard to comprehend. Well, for some posters, sure.ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:11 pm ^^^^
Enjoy senior night, but otherwise, RIP Mitch.
But I guess I’m bullish on Jalen. I don’t think Self would 6th man our best rebounder by a margin. And like I said, if his shots start falling, he could quickly look like the best player on the team.
6th man should be Braun, but knowing Self, that dude’s starting for the next 3 years here while others ride pine then transfer.
Jalen starts every single game next season, but his talent and skill level right now scream a rotation player on a good team. Had he stayed with UMich, he would not have started for them this past season. Seems like a baller that you just want on your team. Not unlike your avatar, who didn't start until his 4th season in the program.
If Jalen only qualifies as a rotation player then someone with Harris' talent/skill level wouldn't qualify as anything other than warm body on bench cheering for the rotation players.
That says more about the program than it does Jalen.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:20 pmSure, we would have been better with can't miss future NBA players at every single position. Unfortunately we don't have a single one of those on our roster this year or next year.
Yes. We had a team of Robins with no Batmen.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:19 pmIf Jalen's talent and skill level scream "rotation player" then all of our guys talent and skill level scream "rotation player".CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:14 pmI didn't understand it would be that hard to comprehend. Well, for some posters, sure.ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:11 pm ^^^^
Enjoy senior night, but otherwise, RIP Mitch.
But I guess I’m bullish on Jalen. I don’t think Self would 6th man our best rebounder by a margin. And like I said, if his shots start falling, he could quickly look like the best player on the team.
6th man should be Braun, but knowing Self, that dude’s starting for the next 3 years here while others ride pine then transfer.
Jalen starts every single game next season, but his talent and skill level right now scream a rotation player on a good team. Had he stayed with UMich, he would not have started for them this past season. Seems like a baller that you just want on your team. Not unlike your avatar, who didn't start until his 4th season in the program.
If Jalen only qualifies as a rotation player then someone with Harris' talent/skill level wouldn't qualify as anything other than warm body on bench cheering for the rotation players.
He is a RS freshman. Next year...I think he'll still be a RS freshman actually?pdub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:23 pm Jalen is a freshman.
Next year he will be sophomore.
I think he improves. I think he improves more than others.
I think he will be one of the best ( at least top 3 ) players on our team.
He was good this season. We will be good next season.
Top 10 good ( if Ochai stays ).
Fair enough....and i do see your point, especially when looking at how these guys stack up against our former players during the Self era.CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:21 pmI don't disagree much at all with that.BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:19 pmIf Jalen's talent and skill level scream "rotation player" then all of our guys talent and skill level scream "rotation player".CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:14 pm
I didn't understand it would be that hard to comprehend. Well, for some posters, sure.
Jalen starts every single game next season, but his talent and skill level right now scream a rotation player on a good team. Had he stayed with UMich, he would not have started for them this past season. Seems like a baller that you just want on your team. Not unlike your avatar, who didn't start until his 4th season in the program.
If Jalen only qualifies as a rotation player then someone with Harris' talent/skill level wouldn't qualify as anything other than warm body on bench cheering for the rotation players.
This past team was kind of just a bunch of guys. No dudes.
Of course he wasn’t.
When you put it that way, dude is poised to set all sorts of freshman stats records.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:24 pmHe is a RS freshman. Next year...I think he'll still be a RS freshman actually?pdub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:23 pm Jalen is a freshman.
Next year he will be sophomore.
I think he improves. I think he improves more than others.
I think he will be one of the best ( at least top 3 ) players on our team.
He was good this season. We will be good next season.
Top 10 good ( if Ochai stays ).
Harris, too. So, when they play like shit we can use the ol' "he's just a freshman!" excuse.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:24 pmHe is a RS freshman. Next year...I think he'll still be a RS freshman actually?pdub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:23 pm Jalen is a freshman.
Next year he will be sophomore.
I think he improves. I think he improves more than others.
I think he will be one of the best ( at least top 3 ) players on our team.
He was good this season. We will be good next season.
Top 10 good ( if Ochai stays ).
60 starts as a freshman, not out of reach.ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:27 pmWhen you put it that way, dude is poised to set all sorts of freshman stats records.jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:24 pmHe is a RS freshman. Next year...I think he'll still be a RS freshman actually?pdub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:23 pm Jalen is a freshman.
Next year he will be sophomore.
I think he improves. I think he improves more than others.
I think he will be one of the best ( at least top 3 ) players on our team.
He was good this season. We will be good next season.
Top 10 good ( if Ochai stays ).
Many of our top ranked freshman never turn a corner....best case is he was going to take Harris minutes, but thats about it. He was average at best prior to the injury. Don't think it was really a meaningful factor in our season.ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:26 pmOf course he wasn’t.
But he also got hurt during the time of season many of our other top-ranked freshman tend to turn a corner.
That's not a bad lineup and rotation at all. Think Clemence gets some run though as Wilson's backup.Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm I don't think this will be popular opinion, but with the lineup as it stands now, I would go
Harris
Yesufu
Ochai
Wilson
Dave
With Thompson, Braun, and Martin being the reserves (since Self doesn't generally go more than 8 deep, regardless of how deep we think we are every off-season).
I could see that, especially if Bill tells Braun to come off the bench and shoot literally every time he touches it. That could be helpful for him.Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm I don't think this will be popular opinion, but with the lineup as it stands now, I would go
Harris
Yesufu
Ochai
Wilson
Dave
With Thompson, Braun, and Martin being the reserves (since Self doesn't generally go more than 8 deep, regardless of how deep we think we are every off-season).