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Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:50 am
by Mjl
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:45 am quit painting the intelligence experts as a monolithic group, illy

there was zero consensus about the situation, exacerbated by what he afghanis were saying
There's absolutely no reason he'd continue making that claim other than the desire to argue and put the libs in their place. It's so obnoxious.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:13 pm
by Deleted User 863
Mjl wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:50 am It's so obnoxious.
As were the last 4 years of never-ending attempts to own the righties.

Welcome to America.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:14 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:45 am
TDub wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:30 am Why would we need a deployment of troops to keep an airbase operational that was already operational? Delayed pullback od troops at that airbase? Yes. Additional deployment? No
Wasn't the Afghan Army running the base when we left? Based on their performance in keeping their country secure, I doubt we would have been wise to count on them.

https://apnews.com/article/bagram-afgha ... aaa167e623
Did you even read the article you posted? LOL

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:16 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:45 am quit painting the intelligence experts as a monolithic group, illy

there was zero consensus about the situation, exacerbated by what he afghanis were saying
Apparently the main one's not in consensus were the President and his yes men. Because from the reports i have heard/read the rest of our military experts/intelligence experts were pretty much in agreement about what was going to occur.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:17 pm
by Deleted User 863
Sure wish DC was still here. He'd be having a field day with the hypocritical lefties.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:20 pm
by Deleted User 89
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:16 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:45 am quit painting the intelligence experts as a monolithic group, illy

there was zero consensus about the situation, exacerbated by what he afghanis were saying
Apparently the main one's not in consensus were the President and his yes men. Because from the reports i have heard/read the rest of our military experts/intelligence experts were pretty much in agreement about what was going to occur.
which is it, military experts or intelligence community experts?

or was that an intentional conflation because you really don’t know, and won’t admit that you continue misrepresenting the situation in order to get your win?

edit: sorry, conflation is probably too big of a word for you...conflation: the merging of two or more sets of information, texts, ideas, etc. into one

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:27 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:14 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:45 am
TDub wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:30 am Why would we need a deployment of troops to keep an airbase operational that was already operational? Delayed pullback od troops at that airbase? Yes. Additional deployment? No
Wasn't the Afghan Army running the base when we left? Based on their performance in keeping their country secure, I doubt we would have been wise to count on them.

https://apnews.com/article/bagram-afgha ... aaa167e623
Did you even read the article you posted? LOL
I did. It stated that the handover of that Air Force Base began in April and ran through early July, when we finally left. Meaning that we no longer had staff and soldiers there to maintain it. We could have only used that air base to help with these evacuations if we moved a bunch of staff and soldiers back to the base. That was my point. I dont see anything in that article that refutes any of my points.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:17 pm Sure wish DC was still here. He'd be having a field day with the hypocritical lefties.
Yes, we all know how much you idolized his ability to hand out snarky zingers.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:31 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:17 pm Sure wish DC was still here. He'd be having a field day with the hypocritical lefties.
Yes, we all know how much you idolized his ability to hand out snarky zingers.
I enjoyed his ability to put you in your place and make you look foolish. That is for sure.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:32 pm
by Deleted User 89
DC could actually turn a coherent thought, and wouldn’t resort to tuning away, whataboutisms, i-know-you-are-but-what-am-i, or goal post moving when he got called out...he could/would actually defend his posts

he also understood that words have definitions, and that the words one uses actually matter

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:38 pm
by Mjl
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:32 pm DC could actually turn a coherent thought, and wouldn’t resort to tuning away, whataboutisms, i-know-you-are-but-what-am-i, or goal post moving when he got called out...he could/would actually defend his posts

he also understood that words have definitions, and that the words one uses actually matter
Ehhhh... Agreed except the whataboutism. He very very much engaged in that.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:39 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:31 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:29 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:17 pm Sure wish DC was still here. He'd be having a field day with the hypocritical lefties.
Yes, we all know how much you idolized his ability to hand out snarky zingers.
I enjoyed his ability to put you in your place and make you look foolish. That is for sure.
At least you admit you're just here to troll and enjoy watching others troll. It's the first step to recovery.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:39 pm
by ousdahl
“when he got called out” and “could/would” being pretty huge operatives

Cuz he otherwise was all about resorting to turning away (hey there CoyDC) or whatsboutisms.

We’d be talking Trump, and DC would be dropping these zingers about some Bill Clinton shit from the 90s.

Don’t get me wrong, I miss DC too.

But geezer was right about him. And I think geezer calling DC out is why DC ultimately left

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:40 pm
by Deleted User 902
Mjl wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:38 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:32 pm DC could actually turn a coherent thought, and wouldn’t resort to tuning away, whataboutisms, i-know-you-are-but-what-am-i, or goal post moving when he got called out...he could/would actually defend his posts

he also understood that words have definitions, and that the words one uses actually matter
Ehhhh... Agreed except the whataboutism. He very very much engaged in that.
Lulz

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:41 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:32 pm DC could actually turn a coherent thought, and wouldn’t resort to tuning away, whataboutisms, i-know-you-are-but-what-am-i, or goal post moving when he got called out...he could/would actually defend his posts

he also understood that words have definitions, and that the words one uses actually matter
Ya i liked him too.

Too bad some of the hysterical libtards around here chased him away so their (your?) echo chamber could continue more easily.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:43 pm
by ousdahl
who knew the big fella was also such a poor little victim

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:44 pm
by Deleted User 902
ousdahl wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:43 pm who knew the big fella was also such a poor little victim
Lulz

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:45 pm
by Mjl
It would be great if there was an advisory position for the President whose entire purpose is to, based off advice from the generals, advise the President...

Wait, there is? Surely based on what Illy is saying, you know, since he read an interview with a couple military people, he advised the President that the Taliban, despite being woefully outnumbered and under-equipped compared to the Afghan army, would immediately wipe out that army?

Oh, wait, he didn't.

The buck stops with Biden, so that mistake he still owns. But the claiming that it was done maliciously and knowingly, and the claim that all the generals knew it, is just insanely stupid.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:49 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:41 pm
TraditionKU wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:32 pm DC could actually turn a coherent thought, and wouldn’t resort to tuning away, whataboutisms, i-know-you-are-but-what-am-i, or goal post moving when he got called out...he could/would actually defend his posts

he also understood that words have definitions, and that the words one uses actually matter
Ya i liked him too.

Too bad some of the hysterical libtards around here chased him away so their (your?) echo chamber could continue more easily.
It was nice having a troll who was intelligent, well read and well spoken vs. the ignorant idiocy our current batch trolls provide but I'd rather have no trolls.

People being a dick to others because they find it amusing still makes this place a less enjoyable forum.

Re: Afghanistan

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:51 pm
by ousdahl
dub needs a codpiece wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:44 pm
ousdahl wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:43 pm who knew the big fella was also such a poor little victim
Lulz
Not nice.

(This place was so much cooler when have the users wuz DC socks)