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Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:52 pm
by Deleted User 863
Looking back, I didn't realize Dayton was ranked so highly. At least KU is good enough to have a chance to win nearly every year. Dayton may never be that good ever again.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:23 pm
by jfish26
AlOerter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:34 pm
Helms was all there was back then. There was no post-season tournament til 1939.
And...nor was there a post-season tournament in 2019-20.
I truly don't care if we claim, or don't claim, 1922, 1923 or 2020.
All I have said - and it's not really even a question - is that if you DO claim the Helms titles, you should logically ALSO claim the 2020 thing. Whatever it was.
Because it's the same thing, substantially. There is not a meaningful difference to the reasoning of claiming Helms "titles", and claiming whatever 2020 was.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:26 pm
by randylahey
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:52 pm
Looking back, I didn't realize Dayton was ranked so highly. At least KU is good enough to have a chance to win nearly every year. Dayton may never be that good ever again.
Yeah that dayton team was awesome. I feel really bad for that team. Obi toppin was the best player in the country that year. KU actually played them in a tournament championship game earl that season (Maui i think) and it went to overtime. One of the best games of the season. 2020 Dayton was special, that school really got fucked
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:28 pm
by randylahey
The 4 likely 1 seeds in 2020 were Dayton, Baylor, kansas, and Gonzaga. Baylor brought the same team back and won the 2021 national championship (Scott drewwww lol), obviously KU won last year. Gonzaga ain't winning no title but are consistently good at least
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:14 pm
by PhDhawk
KUTradition wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 6:49 pm
Self just needs to win more so there isn’t enough space for all of them
This guy gets it.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:28 pm
by DCHawk1
If we win this year, Bill retires.
Nothing left to prove.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:30 pm
by TDub
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:28 pm
If we win this year, Bill retires.
Nothing left to prove.
go after Wooden.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:57 pm
by jhawks99
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:28 pm
If we win this year, Bill retires.
Nothing left to prove.
With complete ignorance on Bill's thoughts I feel compelled to answer for him.
He seems to be having a lot of fun. Assuming he's healthy, he coaches for a while longer.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:16 am
by jfish26
TDub wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:30 pm
DCHawk1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:28 pm
If we win this year, Bill retires.
Nothing left to prove.
go after Wooden.
Not sure he’s available.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:16 am
by dolomite
Sixty is not old……Colonel Sanders didn’t sell his first KFC chicken until he was sixty.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:21 am
by pdub
Kentucky Fried Chicken chicken.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:58 am
by hasbeen
If Bill gets #3 and retires, surely Jay Wright is the one we try to lure back, right?
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:45 am
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:28 pm
ramjet wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:35 pm
Feral wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 1:21 pm
While I agree the Natty was likely ours to lose in 2020, I fear awarding ourselves a title we didn't actually win would make our program appear kinda desperate, which we are not.
That's something the Kittens would do
The Helms banners say that this is something we do.
As pointed out by others, the Helms titles were not self-appointed. It's a really bad look to anoint yourself national title, ask a few UCF fans after they join the conference how their self appointed football title is going.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:46 am
by twocoach
hasbeen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:58 am
If Bill gets #3 and retires, surely Jay Wright is the one we try to lure back, right?
It's delusional for anyone to think they are going to get Jay Wright or Brad Stevens to come back to ncaa hoops to coach.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:04 am
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:45 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:28 pm
ramjet wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:35 pm
That's something the Kittens would do
The Helms banners say that this is something we do.
As pointed out by others, the Helms titles were not self-appointed. It's a really bad look to anoint yourself national title, ask a few UCF fans after they join the conference how their self appointed football title is going.
Forgot about that one.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:07 am
by jfish26
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:45 am
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 3:28 pm
ramjet wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 2:35 pm
That's something the Kittens would do
The Helms banners say that this is something we do.
As pointed out by others, the Helms titles were not self-appointed. It's a really bad look to anoint yourself national title, ask a few UCF fans after they join the conference how their self appointed football title is going.
So you'd feel warm and fuzzy about it if, I don't know, 65 AP writers and 32 coaches had, like,
voted on this?
I think it's silly, and small, that we claim the Helms titles. But the logic behind claiming them, and the logic of us treating 2020 the same way as we treat 1922 and 1923, are of a piece.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:24 am
by Mjl
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:21 am
Kentucky Fried Chicken chicken.
ATM machine
PIN number
JWT token
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:47 am
by hasbeen
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:46 am
hasbeen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:58 am
If Bill gets #3 and retires, surely Jay Wright is the one we try to lure back, right?
It's delusional for anyone to think they are going to get Jay Wright or Brad Stevens to come back to ncaa hoops to coach.
Delusional is just so blatantly overboard to what I suggested lmao JFC
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:51 am
by MICHHAWK
jay wright made all the right moves. made a fortune. went out on top, on his own terms. young enough to enjoy all the fruits of those labors. he's laughing.
we should all be so lucky.
i would not be surprised if he got back into coaching.
Re: Bill Self w/ 2
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:52 am
by jfish26
hasbeen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:47 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:46 am
hasbeen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:58 am
If Bill gets #3 and retires, surely Jay Wright is the one we try to lure back, right?
It's delusional for anyone to think they are going to get Jay Wright or Brad Stevens to come back to ncaa hoops to coach.
Delusional is just so blatantly overboard to what I suggested lmao JFC
Bill has made this job so good that I don't think there's ANY plausible target that it would be "delusional" to think we can get.