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Re: 2024

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:08 pm
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:56 pm I wouldn’t vote for gn to walk the dog.
I'll bet the local election board thinks Boatguy Who Writes In Ronald Reagan for Dog Catcher is a real gas.

Re: 2024

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:35 pm
by zsn
Gavin was waaaaay ahead on the issue of same-gender marriage. On the other hand he was also married to Kimberly Guilfoille!

Re: 2024

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:53 pm
by Overlander
zsn wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:35 pm Gavin was waaaaay ahead on the issue of same-gender marriage. On the other hand he was also married to Kimberly Guilfoille!
Well, she DOES look like she could easily be caught reading story time to kids in Florida.

Same with Eric’s wife.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:30 am
by Shirley
zsn wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:35 pm Gavin was waaaaay ahead on the issue of same-gender marriage. On the other hand he was also married to Kimberly Guilfoille!
While we all make mistakes, that isn't easy to explain away.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:52 am
by Mjl
Telling all Californians to mask and avoid gatherings, while himself partaking in a large, lavish, unmasked gathering still doesn't sit right.

The dude was recalled.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:25 am
by Shirley
Mjl wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 7:52 am Telling all Californians to mask and avoid gatherings, while himself partaking in a large, lavish, unmasked gathering still doesn't sit right.

The dude was recalled.
Except for not being "recalled", you're right.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:32 am
by Mjl
They had a special recall election.
I guess that's not like getting impeached where just going through the process means you were impeached, pedantically?

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:56 am
by zsn
Mjl wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:32 am They had a special recall election.
I guess that's not like getting impeached where just going through the process means you were impeached, pedantically?
The difference is that when someone is impeached the vote to remove them from office is greater than the vote against. In Gavin’s case the recall side was soundly defeated.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:59 am
by TDub
lol at Gavin Newsome being some sort of standard or shining star. my goodness.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:26 am
by Sparko
What policies of GN are being argued against with reasonable alternatives here? Have I missed that?

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:09 am
by zsn
Nope. You haven’t missed anything. You’re just observing the actions of naysayers and nihilists. They’re just “against”. They don’t have any alternative ideas. They just say no. They’re not “for” anyone or anything.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:22 pm
by Shirley
TDub wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:59 am lol at Gavin Newsome being some sort of standard or shining star. my goodness.
Newsom is a politician. Newsom is making a politically savvy decision to work himself into the news cycle, (like almost no other democrat currently who isn't the VP or Biden), in a way that isn't interpreted as a challenge to Biden.

It also gives him the opportunity to draw a stark contrast between himself and potential future political opponents, who are busy banning books, objectifying some of the most vulnerable people in America, (gay and trans Americans), for political gain, attacking the co. that ranked #5 in Fortune's 2022 "World's Most Admired Companies", and for the 19th year in a row ranked #1 as the "Top-ranked media and entertainment Co.", patronizing women and keeping them in their place by inserting themselves between women and their physicians while causing all sorts of volatility and uncertainty in the pharmaceutical industry, telling Black representatives in Tenn., in front of the entire world, not to get too uppity, and doing everything they can to arm the next mass murderer.

And, while that is kind of impressive, interpreting that as me seeing Newsom as a "shining star", is a reach.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:24 pm
by jfish26
Feral wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:22 pm
TDub wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:59 am lol at Gavin Newsome being some sort of standard or shining star. my goodness.
Newsom is a politician. Newsom is making a politically savvy decision to work himself into the news cycle, (like almost no other democrat currently who isn't the VP or Biden), in a way that isn't interpreted as a challenge to Biden.

It also gives him the opportunity to draw a stark contrast between himself and potential future political opponents, who are busy banning books, objectifying some of the most vulnerable people in America, (gay and trans Americans), for political gain, attacking the co. that ranked #5 in Fortune's 2022 "World's Most Admired Companies", and for the 19th year in a row ranked #1 as the "Top-ranked media and entertainment co., patronizing women by inserting themselves between women and their physicians and causing all sorts of volatility and uncertainty into the pharmaceutical industry, telling Black representatives in Tenn., in front of the entire world, not to get too uppity, and doing everything they can to arm the next mass murderer.

And, while that is kind of impressive, interpreting that as me seeing Newsom as a "shining star", is a reach.
What I see in Newsom is a smart guy who is road-testing a media strategy and seeing what fruit it bears.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:27 pm
by Shirley
That, too.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:34 pm
by jfish26
Feral wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:27 pmThat, too.
I tend to think the math won’t end up adding up for him. I think it’s unlikely that there will be traction in swing states for a California dem.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:37 pm
by zsn
Exactly. First of all I don’t think anyone sees Gavin as a star, shining or otherwise. Second, he’s showboating the same way as the other guys, except he’s not raving lunatic like the governors of the next two most populous states.

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:41 pm
by zsn
Also, he’s termed out in 2026. So he’s angling for his next gig. I don’t think he’s presidential material, in spite of what he thinks- and I voted for him three times for governor. I think he’s looking for a cabinet post that he can then leverage for something else, maybe Senate

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:46 pm
by TDub
Feral wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:22 pm
TDub wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:59 am lol at Gavin Newsome being some sort of standard or shining star. my goodness.
Newsom is a politician. Newsom is making a politically savvy decision to work himself into the news cycle, (like almost no other democrat currently who isn't the VP or Biden), in a way that isn't interpreted as a challenge to Biden.

It also gives him the opportunity to draw a stark contrast between himself and potential future political opponents, who are busy banning books, objectifying some of the most vulnerable people in America, (gay and trans Americans), for political gain, attacking the co. that ranked #5 in Fortune's 2022 "World's Most Admired Companies", and for the 19th year in a row ranked #1 as the "Top-ranked media and entertainment Co.", patronizing women and keeping them in their place by inserting themselves between women and their physicians while causing all sorts of volatility and uncertainty in the pharmaceutical industry, telling Black representatives in Tenn., in front of the entire world, not to get too uppity, and doing everything they can to arm the next mass murderer.

And, while that is kind of impressive, interpreting that as me seeing Newsom as a "shining star", is a reach.

sorry for the confusion.....I dont think you are the one that sees gavin as a shining star..

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:54 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
2024 DNC in Chicago.
If Uncle Sleepy Joe is going to be the nominee can there be anything less exciting/interesting?

Re: 2024

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:16 pm
by Shirley
zsn wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:41 pm Also, he’s termed out in 2026. So he’s angling for his next gig. I don’t think he’s presidential material, in spite of what he thinks- and I voted for him three times for governor. I think he’s looking for a cabinet post that he can then leverage for something else, maybe Senate
If Feinstein would admit she's no longer capable and step down, he could appoint himself to the senate.