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Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:17 pm
by randylahey
The only "whiffs" we have in my opinion is when we recruit talented players and fail to keep them here long term. If elmarko leaves that would be example
If you look at what Self and his staff do with freshman we recruit that graduate here, it's pretty incredible.
So fuck the portal
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:21 pm
by ousdahl
How many talented players have we failed to keep long term but they went on to end up actually being good players?
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:24 pm
by ousdahl
pdub wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 3:05 pm
He tells Dajuan, who has been in this offense for years, where to go on the floor.
nm
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:38 pm
by DeletedUser
Recent whiffs that come to mind:
Udeh
Zuby
Rice
Arterio
Yesufu
Pettiford
Timberlake
Marcus Adams Jr
And the entire 2021 class. You can't be Kansas and have no freshman in the top 50.
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:42 pm
by randylahey
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:21 pm
How many talented players have we failed to keep long term but they went on to end up actually being good players?
Quentin Grimes is the best recent example. But there plenty of guys who have left and had varying levels of success
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:45 pm
by DeletedUser
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:21 pm
How many talented players have we failed to keep long term but they went on to end up actually being good players?
That's not exactly a good thing that there aren't a bunch of examples. Where they were good recruits, but maybe just bad fits.
Why are they coming here in the first place. It's a problem to miss on so many guys.
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:34 pm
by ousdahl
I suppose Grimey counts.
As a whole tho I’m pretty sure anyone who transfers from KU thinking they’ll find greener pastures elsewhere, they rarely pan out
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:41 pm
by DeletedUser
Is that supposed to be comforting? Or a positive thing?
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:11 pm
by pdub
It’s a positive thing that our coach has a track record of making non top 25 recruits become top 25 players in CBB, yes.
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:32 pm
by randylahey
Self said on his radio show that hunter and mccullar are out for the big 12 tourney, but will play in the ncaa. Which is what most of us assumed
https://twitter.com/GaryBedore/status/1 ... PkEZA&s=19
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:11 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:34 pm
I suppose Grimey counts.
As a whole tho I’m pretty sure anyone who transfers from KU thinking they’ll find greener pastures elsewhere, they rarely pan out
Going a few years back....
Substantial.....
Enaruna (Cleveland State - not ISU)
Grant-Foster (Grand Canyon - DePaul)
KJ Lawson (Tulane)
Charlie Moore (Miami - DePaul)
Bragg (New Mexico)
DeSousa (UT Chat)
Does Issac McBride count? (Oral Bob - Vandy)
Lesser degree.....
Pettiford
Bryce Thompson
KJ Lawson
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:14 pm
by DeletedUser
HD 2nd team AA
(Sporting news)
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:11 pm
by TDub
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:11 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:34 pm
I suppose Grimey counts.
As a whole tho I’m pretty sure anyone who transfers from KU thinking they’ll find greener pastures elsewhere, they rarely pan out
Going a few years back....
Substantial.....
Enaruna (Cleveland State - not ISU)
Grant-Foster (Grand Canyon - DePaul)
KJ Lawson (Tulane)
Charlie Moore (Miami - DePaul)
Bragg (New Mexico)
DeSousa (UT Chat)
Does Issac McBride count? (Oral Bob - Vandy)
Lesser degree.....
Pettiford
Bryce Thompson
KJ Lawson
I'm not sure those all count as "successful elsewhere"
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:09 pm
by RainbowsandUnicorns
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:11 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:11 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:34 pm
I suppose Grimey counts.
As a whole tho I’m pretty sure anyone who transfers from KU thinking they’ll find greener pastures elsewhere, they rarely pan out
Going a few years back....
Substantial.....
Enaruna (Cleveland State - not ISU)
Grant-Foster (Grand Canyon - DePaul)
KJ Lawson (Tulane)
Charlie Moore (Miami - DePaul)
Bragg (New Mexico)
DeSousa (UT Chat)
Does Issac McBride count? (Oral Bob - Vandy)
Lesser degree.....
Pettiford
Bryce Thompson
KJ Lawson
I'm not sure those all count as "successful elsewhere"
Probably not but do I consider them to be finding "greener pastures" elsewhere.
Not necessarily $ green, and not fame and playing for an elite program green, but playing time and contribution greener.
I know all of the kids listed were great HS players and recruited by legit programs. They had choices and chose KU. What did they think would happen? I refuse to believe Self sold them on lies. They knew they would have to compete and then they either quit on KU or Self quit on them.
I would never knock a kid for wanting to PLAY for Kansas but in today's NCAA Basketball world divorce is way too common and I think it's crap for ALL involved. I would much prefer - you commit, that's it. You don't leave unless your coach leaves. I also don't think it's cool for coaches to recruit kids and then all but kick them out the door because someone better comes along. Too easy for everyone to play the selfish bitch/asshole role. Then again, NCAA Basketball is a HUGE business. Who am I to say what I think is right and wrong - for others? What I do feel I have the right to say is that I feel it's time for a BIG change in regards to the rules.
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:12 pm
by TDub
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:09 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:11 pm
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:11 pm
Going a few years back....
Substantial.....
Enaruna (Cleveland State - not ISU)
Grant-Foster (Grand Canyon - DePaul)
KJ Lawson (Tulane)
Charlie Moore (Miami - DePaul)
Bragg (New Mexico)
DeSousa (UT Chat)
Does Issac McBride count? (Oral Bob - Vandy)
Lesser degree.....
Pettiford
Bryce Thompson
KJ Lawson
I'm not sure those all count as "successful elsewhere"
Probably not but do I consider them to be finding "greener pastures" elsewhere.
Not necessarily $ green, and not fame and playing for an elite program green, but playing time and contribution greener.
I know all of the kids listed were great HS players and recruited by legit programs. They had choices and chose KU. What did they think would happen? I refuse to believe Self sold them on lies. They knew they would have to compete and then they either quit on KU or Self quit on them.
I would never knock a kid for wanting to PLAY for Kansas but in today's NCAA Basketball world divorce is way too common and I think it's crap for ALL involved. I would much prefer - you commit, that's it. You don't leave unless your coach leaves. I also don't think it's cool for coaches to recruit kids and then all but kick them out the door because someone better comes along. Too easy for everyone to play the selfish bitch/asshole role. Then again, NCAA Basketball is a HUGE business. Who am I to say what I think is right and wrong - for others? What I do feel I have the right to say is that I feel it's time for a BIG change in regards to the rules.
you're not wrong.
Problem being, we just had a BIG couple changes in regards to the rules and they both went the wrong direction as far as I (and you seem to be based on this post) am concerned.
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:29 am
by DeletedUser
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:36 am
by TDub
hes an all American douchebag....so he's got thay goin for him.
Least likeable Jayhawk player in my lifetime I think.
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:41 am
by Back2Lawrence
So no rafters? Darn the luck.
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:57 am
by DeletedUser
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:36 am
hes an all American douchebag....so he's got thay goin for him.
Least likeable Jayhawk player in my lifetime I think.
Vick. Giles. CJ Henry.
Those guys come to mind as well.
Re: WELCOME HUNTER DICKINSON
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:11 am
by MICHHAWK
try as you may. hd is not to blame for last nights craptastic crap pile of crap. nope. you can't blame him.