Kansas Crimson

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:28 am**

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:18 am Again, I'm a middle guy here, but after thinking about it this morning, I don't think there is much doubt who I want as president. As I talked with my wife last night, I told her it's not so much that I really like Biden, it's just I despise Trump and everything he stands for. Yes he has done some "ok things" but he has largely been a dumpster fire with his demeanor, his policies and how he responds to situations that he has no control over.

But after thinking more, Biden really is pulling the empathy card with everyone and I believe it's sincere. Yes he may have flaws in his policy, he may stumble with words every now and then, but I truly think he tries to do what is best for the American people. Yes it may not please everyone, but for the most part, he truly believes what he does is right for the majority of the people out there.

Kinda where I'm at too.

I just CAN'T vote for Trump. He's failed at the position. You can't allow someone to continue at a job when he's done that poorly.

And I think we need someone who will try to do what's best for the country rather than himself, even if I disagree with what that person.

I just can't continue to watch my country be torn apart while the guy in the white house acts like he's on a reality tv show.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:36 am**

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:18 am Again, I'm a middle guy here, but after thinking about it this morning, I don't think there is much doubt who I want as president. As I talked with my wife last night, I told her it's not so much that I really like Biden, it's just I despise Trump and everything he stands for. Yes he has done some "ok things" but he has largely been a dumpster fire with his demeanor, his policies and how he responds to situations that he has no control over.

But after thinking more, Biden really is pulling the empathy card with everyone and I believe it's sincere. Yes he may have flaws in his policy, he may stumble with words every now and then, but I truly think he tries to do what is best for the American people. Yes it may not please everyone, but for the most part, he truly believes what he does is right for the majority of the people out there.

Pretty much my exact feelings as well.

Biden wasn't in my top 5 dems running at the beginning....but i was guaranteed to vote for whoever got the pick.

I do think the dem machine missed a chance to usher out the old guard by thinking that biden was the only 1 or 1 of the few that could beat trump, because i don't believe that. I actually think some of the others had equal or better chance to do that because most of us weren't voting for trump no matter what.

It sucks they picked biden....and it means a lot of us who voted for biden this time will be looking elsewhere in 2024 if he somehow tries to run for reelection.

I hope some of those likeable dems run again, and i hope the republicans find someone with half a brain and some fucking character to run in 2024.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:38 am**

Grandma wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:23 am "I'm the least racist person in this room".
I am wondering what he really felt about the Native American / African American woman moderator.
It would have been golden if she would have asked him if he would like to address her as Pocahontas.

Look at all that diversity in the Trump photo?

Who are the people in the pictures?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:59 am**

jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:59 am Not that it matters, but I thought the most powerful moment of the debate last night was Biden acknowledging, without qualification, that he was wrong on the crime bill.

He very thoughtfully described what he thought was good and bad a out the crime bill in his town hall. Isn't that ultimately what our government should be?

1) Do something that you think needs to be done
2) Evaluate it to see what worked and what didn't
3) Determine if it needs to be thrown out or be fixed with adjustments

Trump doesn't seem to understand that. He doesn't even seem to realize that the improvements he's made to Obamacare that have helped to reduce premium costs etc... are exactly how Biden wants to improve Obamacare. Trump is actually helping to prove that Biden's plan would work well. He just wants Obamacare out because he thinks it will help him get reelected and because he cannot handle Obama getting credit for anything.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:01 am**

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:38 am
Grandma wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:23 am "I'm the least racist person in this room".
I am wondering what he really felt about the Native American / African American woman moderator.
It would have been golden if she would have asked him if he would like to address her as Pocahontas.

Look at all that diversity in the Trump photo?

Who are the people in the pictures?

If I remember right, these are photos of the White House intern program members under Obama and then Trump.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:04 am**

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:01 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:38 am
Grandma wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:23 am "I'm the least racist person in this room".
I am wondering what he really felt about the Native American / African American woman moderator.
It would have been golden if she would have asked him if he would like to address her as Pocahontas.

Look at all that diversity in the Trump photo?

Who are the people in the pictures?
If I remember right, these are photos of the White House intern program members under Obama and then Trump.

Yuck.

Although i guess it shouldn't be a surprise that many minorities wouldn't even want to accept a position under a person like trump.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:09 am**

DONALD TRUMP HAS NO REPLACEMENT FOR OBAMACARE.

FOUR YEARS LATER.

HELLO? BUEHLER?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:32 am**

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:04 am
twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:01 am
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:38 am
Who are the people in the pictures?
If I remember right, these are photos of the White House intern program members under Obama and then Trump.
Yuck.

Although i guess it shouldn't be a surprise that many minorities wouldn't even want to accept a position under a person like trump.

I fully realize Trump doesn't choose most of his interns but it's always reassuring to know he's playing to his voters by fulfilling his 2016 promise - to make (and keep?) America white again.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 am**

sdoyel wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:09 am DONALD TRUMP HAS NO REPLACEMENT FOR OBAMACARE.

FOUR YEARS LATER.

HELLO? BUEHLER?

jb has had 47 years to accomplish what he says he will get done in the next 4. Serious question, why should we believe him?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:43 am**

Joe Biden has been president for 47 years?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:44 am**

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 am
sdoyel wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:09 am DONALD TRUMP HAS NO REPLACEMENT FOR OBAMACARE.

FOUR YEARS LATER.

HELLO? BUEHLER?
jb has had 47 years to accomplish what he says he will get done in the next 4. Serious question, why should we believe him?

Do you have any fucking clue that the man wasn't the President at any time over the past 47 years?
What the fuck has Mike Pence "accomplished?"
A lot less than Joe Biden did when he was V.P.. Right?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:08 pm**

So we do not expect our elected officials to accomplish things until they get elected president?

We do here in the great state of Michigan. Maybe not in your toilet towns. But we expect and receive here in the Great Lakes State.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:10 pm**

IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:36 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:18 am Again, I'm a middle guy here, but after thinking about it this morning, I don't think there is much doubt who I want as president. As I talked with my wife last night, I told her it's not so much that I really like Biden, it's just I despise Trump and everything he stands for. Yes he has done some "ok things" but he has largely been a dumpster fire with his demeanor, his policies and how he responds to situations that he has no control over.

But after thinking more, Biden really is pulling the empathy card with everyone and I believe it's sincere. Yes he may have flaws in his policy, he may stumble with words every now and then, but I truly think he tries to do what is best for the American people. Yes it may not please everyone, but for the most part, he truly believes what he does is right for the majority of the people out there.
Pretty much my exact feelings as well.

Biden wasn't in my top 5 dems running at the beginning....but i was guaranteed to vote for whoever got the pick.

I do think the dem machine missed a chance to usher out the old guard by thinking that biden was the only 1 or 1 of the few that could beat trump, because i don't believe that. I actually think some of the others had equal or better chance to do that because most of us weren't voting for trump no matter what.

It sucks they picked biden....and it means a lot of us who voted for biden this time will be looking elsewhere in 2024 if he somehow tries to run for reelection.

I hope some of those likeable dems run again, and i hope the republicans find someone with half a brain and some fucking character to run in 2024.

You do realize that we have Biden not because of the "Dem machine" but because a bunch of people who voted in the primaries were worried about the ability of any other Dem to beat Trump, aren't you?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:13 pm**

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:08 pm So we do not expect our elected officials to accomplish things until they get elected president?

We do here in the great state of Michigan. Maybe not in your toilet towns. But we expect and receive here in the Great Lakes State.

Your great state had citizens attempt to kidnap and kill your Governor. FOH. Nothing about that state is great. Period.

But besides that, what did Trump do before getting elected president. Bankruptcy after bankruptcy and fake wealth. But whatever, he's not your typical politician and that's done him wonders, huh?

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:14 pm**

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:08 pm So we do not expect our elected officials to accomplish things until they get elected president?

We do here in the great state of Michigan. Maybe not in your toilet towns. But we expect and receive here in the Great Lakes State.

The list of things you can accomplish as the one and only President is different than the list of things you can accomplish as one of 100 Senators. I know you understand that.

The whole "hasn't accomplished anything in 47 years" shtick is just plain lazy.

https://www.miamidadedems.org/joe-biden ... ments-list

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:16 pm**

After 47 years of empty promises you are more than happy to give jb a pass. But not dt after 3.5

That’s partisan.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:25 pm**

You could, you know, actually try to educate yourself.

https://www.congress.gov/member/joseph- ... e=expanded

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:30 pm**

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:36 am
sdoyel wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:09 am DONALD TRUMP HAS NO REPLACEMENT FOR OBAMACARE.

FOUR YEARS LATER.

HELLO? BUEHLER?
jb has had 47 years to accomplish what he says he will get done in the next 4. Serious question, why should we believe him?

I hope, for your sake, that stupid Trump talking points are calorie free.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:34 pm**

They are not calorie free.

But, they are not way past their expiration date like jb’s either.

Posted: **Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:56 pm**

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:10 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:36 am
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:18 am Again, I'm a middle guy here, but after thinking about it this morning, I don't think there is much doubt who I want as president. As I talked with my wife last night, I told her it's not so much that I really like Biden, it's just I despise Trump and everything he stands for. Yes he has done some "ok things" but he has largely been a dumpster fire with his demeanor, his policies and how he responds to situations that he has no control over.

But after thinking more, Biden really is pulling the empathy card with everyone and I believe it's sincere. Yes he may have flaws in his policy, he may stumble with words every now and then, but I truly think he tries to do what is best for the American people. Yes it may not please everyone, but for the most part, he truly believes what he does is right for the majority of the people out there.
Pretty much my exact feelings as well.

Biden wasn't in my top 5 dems running at the beginning....but i was guaranteed to vote for whoever got the pick.

I do think the dem machine missed a chance to usher out the old guard by thinking that biden was the only 1 or 1 of the few that could beat trump, because i don't believe that. I actually think some of the others had equal or better chance to do that because most of us weren't voting for trump no matter what.

It sucks they picked biden....and it means a lot of us who voted for biden this time will be looking elsewhere in 2024 if he somehow tries to run for reelection.

I hope some of those likeable dems run again, and i hope the republicans find someone with half a brain and some fucking character to run in 2024.
You do realize that we have Biden not because of the "Dem machine" but because a bunch of people who voted in the primaries were worried about the ability of any other Dem to beat Trump, aren't you?

An unnecessary worry they were led to believe by the dem machine.

Almost every single one of those candidates were capable of beating trump. Several moreso than biden.

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