Re: 2024
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:24 pm
i think you are confusing real life with the television show THE BOYS.
Greatest economy? What planet are you living on? This economy is the worst shit show since Carter.Sparko wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:18 pmIt should, since you think internment camps and global climate collapse are somebody else's problem. But an idiot the size of Texas like Trump will make short work of prosperoty and peace. You might notice that we are in the greatest economy of our lifetime and not at war for the first time since Carter.
I fall in-between the two of you in regards to my feelings about "the economy". So which of us 3 is right? We can't all be. Unless we are only thinking about how it affects us as individuals?JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:25 pmGreatest economy? What planet are you living on? This economy is the worst shit show since Carter.Sparko wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:18 pmIt should, since you think internment camps and global climate collapse are somebody else's problem. But an idiot the size of Texas like Trump will make short work of prosperoty and peace. You might notice that we are in the greatest economy of our lifetime and not at war for the first time since Carter.
Kamala couldn’t even pass the bar exam her first try. At least Joe has a valid reason why he can’t complete a cogent sentence. Giggles is just dumb.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:42 pmI fall in-between the two of you in regards to my feelings about "the economy". So which of us 3 is right? We can't all be. Unless we are only thinking about how it affects us as individuals?JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:25 pmGreatest economy? What planet are you living on? This economy is the worst shit show since Carter.Sparko wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:18 pm
It should, since you think internment camps and global climate collapse are somebody else's problem. But an idiot the size of Texas like Trump will make short work of prosperoty and peace. You might notice that we are in the greatest economy of our lifetime and not at war for the first time since Carter.
Let's say Joe drops out and Kamala is elevated. I say to those who get excited about the prospect/s, careful what you wish/ed for.
Color me orange, tan, yellow, brown, and black, and call me an idiot Giraffe but I'm convinced Joe probably has a better chance of beating Trump than Kamala does. One advantage of Kamala over Joe is Kamala could then have a more attractive VP candidate than we currently have.
Dont' get me wrong, I don't think "giggles" is a genius but you know who else "couldn’t even pass the bar exam (their) first try? People A LOT smarter than you (and I) are.JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:48 pmKamala couldn’t even pass the bar exam her first try. At least Joe has a valid reason why he can’t complete a cogent sentence. Giggles is just dumb.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:42 pmI fall in-between the two of you in regards to my feelings about "the economy". So which of us 3 is right? We can't all be. Unless we are only thinking about how it affects us as individuals?
Let's say Joe drops out and Kamala is elevated. I say to those who get excited about the prospect/s, careful what you wish/ed for.
Color me orange, tan, yellow, brown, and black, and call me an idiot Giraffe but I'm convinced Joe probably has a better chance of beating Trump than Kamala does. One advantage of Kamala over Joe is Kamala could then have a more attractive VP candidate than we currently have.
She of course is not 'dumb'.JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:48 pmKamala couldn’t even pass the bar exam her first try. At least Joe has a valid reason why he can’t complete a cogent sentence. Giggles is just dumb.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:42 pmI fall in-between the two of you in regards to my feelings about "the economy". So which of us 3 is right? We can't all be. Unless we are only thinking about how it affects us as individuals?
Let's say Joe drops out and Kamala is elevated. I say to those who get excited about the prospect/s, careful what you wish/ed for.
Color me orange, tan, yellow, brown, and black, and call me an idiot Giraffe but I'm convinced Joe probably has a better chance of beating Trump than Kamala does. One advantage of Kamala over Joe is Kamala could then have a more attractive VP candidate than we currently have.
Speak for yourself. She’s nowhere near as smart as I.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:57 pmDont' get me wrong, I don't think "giggles" is a genius but you know who else "couldn’t even pass the bar exam (their) first try? People A LOT smarter than you (and I) are.JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:48 pmKamala couldn’t even pass the bar exam her first try. At least Joe has a valid reason why he can’t complete a cogent sentence. Giggles is just dumb.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:42 pm
I fall in-between the two of you in regards to my feelings about "the economy". So which of us 3 is right? We can't all be. Unless we are only thinking about how it affects us as individuals?
Let's say Joe drops out and Kamala is elevated. I say to those who get excited about the prospect/s, careful what you wish/ed for.
Color me orange, tan, yellow, brown, and black, and call me an idiot Giraffe but I'm convinced Joe probably has a better chance of beating Trump than Kamala does. One advantage of Kamala over Joe is Kamala could then have a more attractive VP candidate than we currently have.
Lulz. See my tag line for Exhibit A.pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:59 pmShe of course is not 'dumb'.JKLivin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:48 pmKamala couldn’t even pass the bar exam her first try. At least Joe has a valid reason why he can’t complete a cogent sentence. Giggles is just dumb.RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:42 pm
I fall in-between the two of you in regards to my feelings about "the economy". So which of us 3 is right? We can't all be. Unless we are only thinking about how it affects us as individuals?
Let's say Joe drops out and Kamala is elevated. I say to those who get excited about the prospect/s, careful what you wish/ed for.
Color me orange, tan, yellow, brown, and black, and call me an idiot Giraffe but I'm convinced Joe probably has a better chance of beating Trump than Kamala does. One advantage of Kamala over Joe is Kamala could then have a more attractive VP candidate than we currently have.
And she of course completes a far more amount of cogent sentences than Trump.
You hate her because she is a woman Democrat. We get it.
Biden won CO by almost half a million votes last election. In a lot of ways we’re pretty much Cali lite by now. While I dunno if he can rely on that kinda margin again, if Trump even comes close to winning this state, dems is in for a lot more trouble yet.jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:13 pm
I just think this doesn't give nearly enough weight to the fact that, if 10,000 people in any swing state act on these well-meaning impulses, then not only will the "message" or whatever not be heard, but things will slide appreciably - and perhaps catastrophically and for a very long time - backwards.
Even if we agree that where we are at is not good, it is - I would HOPE we agree - significantly better than in places like Russia.
I keep thinking more like. that is the sort of place the oligarchy wants to take us. It’s not partisan, it’s systemic. Both parties are in Evil Rich People’s pockets, and Evil Rich People wanna see power and control and resources concentrated around their interests; the interests of capital.
But make no mistake, that is the sort of place the right wants to take us.
Either that, or - and largely to my last point - the opinion was drafted by people who knew liberals would be in power again, but don’t care, cuz they also know liberals aren’t worth much more than performative gestures at this point. Liberals still serve capital far more than people. And even if liberals get some good-faith wind in their sails and actually try something, they’re still too incompetent to actually get much done. (I mean why isn’t Biden running wild with this executive immunity theory?)
There is no clearer tell on that than in the scope of the immunity opinion - that opinion was drafted by people who very obviously do not intend on there EVER being a liberal President and a liberal Supreme Court. And these are not foolish people who simply overlook the possibility that their side might, in the ordinary course, simply lose some day.
These two things can be true at the same time: (1) one "side" of something can have unclean hands, and (2) the other "side" of the thing can be conclusively, of the two, THE bad actor.ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:09 pmBiden won CO by almost half a million votes last election. In a lot of ways we’re pretty much Cali lite by now. While I dunno if he can rely on that kinda margin again, if Trump even comes close to winning this state, dems is in for a lot more trouble yet.jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:13 pm
I just think this doesn't give nearly enough weight to the fact that, if 10,000 people in any swing state act on these well-meaning impulses, then not only will the "message" or whatever not be heard, but things will slide appreciably - and perhaps catastrophically and for a very long time - backwards.
Even if we agree that where we are at is not good, it is - I would HOPE we agree - significantly better than in places like Russia.
While on one hand I can def agree, on the other I’m still tempted to say something sassy like…at least Russia has universal healthcare?
I keep thinking more like. that is the sort of place the oligarchy wants to take us. It’s not partisan, it’s systemic. Both parties are in Evil Rich People’s pockets, and Evil Rich People wanna see power and control and resources concentrated around their interests; the interests of capital.
But make no mistake, that is the sort of place the right wants to take us.
For real, the U.S. gummint, and both major parties, has been little more than like 3 corporations in a trench coat for a while now.
Either that, or - and largely to my last point - the opinion was drafted by people who knew liberals would be in power again, but don’t care, cuz they also know liberals aren’t worth much more than performative gestures at this point. Liberals still serve capital far more than people. And even if liberals get some good-faith wind in their sails and actually try something, they’re still too incompetent to actually get much done. (I mean why isn’t Biden running wild with this executive immunity theory?)
There is no clearer tell on that than in the scope of the immunity opinion - that opinion was drafted by people who very obviously do not intend on there EVER being a liberal President and a liberal Supreme Court. And these are not foolish people who simply overlook the possibility that their side might, in the ordinary course, simply lose some day.
If you really think liberals are gonna be responsible for sweeping progressive reforms all of a sudden, I wouldn’t hold your breath.
Or, should the expression be, I wouldn’t stop flapping your gills?
(Trying to make a fish joke)
Mind providing a source, Psych?
This one still cracks me up. Full Exhibit.
If you can't pluck an R, I like Shapiro or Beshear better.Shirley wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:59 pm I'm thinking Harris + Whitmer.
They would not only generate a ton of excitement in the Demo base, they'd likely beat the hell out of the bro ticket of Trump and Peter Thiel's lap dog, plus Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan, and Dana White. (All of whom are speaking tonight in order to emphasize bone spurs made me not do it Trump's repulsive "Fight" meme, which will not appeal to not already committed voters.)
Book it...