Kansas Crimson

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:31 am He played at KU as long as Embiid Wiggins Furphy Dick and Oubre did.

Maybe just put him last each day?

I typically do it in order of what I see on ESPN.
I can try to remember to put him last but I'll probably forget.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:06 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:31 am He played at KU as long as Embiid Wiggins Furphy Dick and Oubre did.

Maybe just put him last each day?

I typically do it in order of what I see on ESPN.
I can try to remember to put him last but I'll probably forget.

I know.

I was just joking. I'll just read his line in your post last. Fair compromise and no added work for your no paying 2nd job.

Wait…gutter’s not being paid?



Then what the F else is my money being used for that I donated to this site by clicking the button over twocoach’s user name?

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:44 am Embiid is too annoying to enjoy.
Wiggins doesn't really seem to like Kansas.
I don't think Oubre really wanted to be here while he was.
Furphy made a bad decision.
Dick is weird AF and I either really like his antics or don't - but dude is from Kansas.

I like Wiggins in the pros so if I ranked them:

Dick
Wiggins

Furphy
Embiid
Oubre




Grimes

Embiid - I loved (ok - really liked) him. He came to the NBA and wanted to be a super-star and media sensation - and he was succeeding. Very well.
He's now a sour man and not very likable.

Wiggins - I feel he has no reason (that I can justify) not to like Kansas. Dude came to KU wanting to play for a season. Did. Probably got paid well. Fans loved him. Left and was the #1 pick of the draft. All good. No?

Oubre - I don't know if he wanted to be at Kansas when he was at Kansas - or not. He had other choices so the majority of blame lies on him if he wasn't happy. Team had a lot of talent to not be very good.

Furphy - Maybe he did not make a bad decision? Based on what he and his agent was told and what he wanted to, and chose to do - he, and his family, and his agent, felt it was the right decision. Yes, in hindsight it's easy for guys like you (pdub) and I (me) to judge what others should and shouldn't do, and what is and isn't best for them, - but we are not them and maybe they know more about what is and isn't best for them when they make their decision/s? That's not to say people don't make mistakes in that regard. They do. I don't know, as I typically am, I guess I'm torn on the subject.

Dick - Is indeed "weird af". I don't give a shit if he's from Kansas or Mars but as far as this bored is concerned - he deserves love and praise for being a Kansas guy who wanted to play for his state school.

Grimes - I have very little interest in him as an NBA player.

In order of who I care about the most to the least....

Embiid
Wiggins
Braun
Furphy
Oubre
Dick
Agbaji
Wilson
Svi
MKMorris
Grimes

Furphy made a bad decision if the decision was maximizing earning potential.
In my opinion, Furphy also made a bad decision if the decision was maximizing development ( others disagree ).

We've gone over this previously.

Ochai is easily my favorite KU player in the NBA right now.

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:43 pm Furphy made a bad decision if the decision was maximizing earning potential.
In my opinion, Furphy also made a bad decision if the decision was maximizing development ( others disagree ).

We've gone over this previously.

Ochai is easily my favorite KU player in the NBA right now.

CB for me, but same line of thought.

Don't care nearly as much about Furphy or Gradey.

Of all the bad decisions I made when I was 19, none of them involved inking a $8.5 million dollar deal ($6.1 mil guaranteed)

Tho one of them WAS staying in school, mostly just so I could walk down Naismith Drive every day to put a note in the Bill Self Suggestion Box that read, “come on coach just let Ousdhal walk on…please? Also come on coach be a bro and show the nudie pics of Cindy!”

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:47 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:43 pm Furphy made a bad decision if the decision was maximizing earning potential.
In my opinion, Furphy also made a bad decision if the decision was maximizing development ( others disagree ).

We've gone over this previously.

Ochai is easily my favorite KU player in the NBA right now.

CB for me, but same line of thought.

Don't care nearly as much about Furphy or Gradey.

I bet you’d like Gradey a lot more if not for this sock.

grimes doesn't even register in my world.

embeed, wiggins, furphy, oubre, dick i forget they were ever JAYHAWKS until they get dredged up.

BiggDick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:50 pm

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:47 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:43 pm Furphy made a bad decision if the decision was maximizing earning potential.
In my opinion, Furphy also made a bad decision if the decision was maximizing development ( others disagree ).

We've gone over this previously.

Ochai is easily my favorite KU player in the NBA right now.

CB for me, but same line of thought.

Don't care nearly as much about Furphy or Gradey.

I bet you’d like Gradey a lot more if not for this sock.

I'd like Gradey a lot more if he stayed at KU for more than 7 or 8 months and and wasn't so weird.

half of that list did nothing that was worthy of being remembered for.

DeletedUser wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:47 pm

pdub wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:43 pm Furphy made a bad decision if the decision was maximizing earning potential.
In my opinion, Furphy also made a bad decision if the decision was maximizing development ( others disagree ).

We've gone over this previously.

Ochai is easily my favorite KU player in the NBA right now.

CB for me, but same line of thought.

Don't care nearly as much about Furphy or Gradey.

Ochai just beamed over KU from the get go - the excitement of being there was so overwhelmingly genuine.
Never shot arrows or called people bitch.
Stayed at KU as long as he could.
Improved enough to win B12POY and 1st team AA. He's goin' rafters.

But I too like Braun over all those previous guys listed by quite a bit.

Ochai went from low-profile local kid to pulling the shirt off cuz we needed him. It took him literally less than a second on the court to start throwing down oops for us. For real, how often does Self draw up a play for the new guy?!

Ochai is also one of just a very few players to join the 4 Year Starter Club.

Under Self, it's something like...

Och
Dajuan
Tyshawn
Aaron Miles

and that's only the guys who started the majority of all 4 years, and counting a roi holdover at that. (and Och's freshman year was only like half a donut's worth, at that)

To round out a lineup, you'd have to include doods like Perry Ellis (who started 3+ straight years but his very few freshman starts included the Topeka YMCA game), and Sasha (who only started a few times as a freshy plus only started a few times as a senior til DJ took his spot)

Or, when we're digging this deep, am I forgetting anyone? Who else might pass as a 4 year starter?

If you're mentioning Perry and Sasha then you'd have to mention Frank Mason who got several starts his freshman year ( and probably should have been starting more often ).

You'd also might need to mention DMac who, due to Udoka getting busted up, had a lot of starts his first two seasons, and then became a permanent fixture for his last two.

Yea, Frank coulda shoulda woulda started more often. That was partially cuz Frank was good enough to start as a freshman, and partially cuz Dajuan-with-a-J-instead-of-D wait I mean Tharpe was focused less on the game and more on milf tits.

DMac's a good call too. I think he started a little next to Dok, even. And dunno whether to dock him or give him points for landing a suspension from the White Jeans debacle.

They did DeSousa dirty.
White jeans guy started it.
Or, if you don't think that started it, trying to dunk when down 20 points with seconds left started it.

Nobody gets points from me for the KState fight. That was a total embarrassment to the basketball program.

Doesn't matter who started it.

Nobody gets points.
But DeSousa did NOT deserve a 12 game suspension.
Or if he did, white jeans deserved to have 13+.

sds is on the shortlist for biggest mistake the KUAD ever made.

I mean, the chair was pretty egregious. But yea, the kitties who started it deserved more.

Pretty sure SDS is doing pretty well playing pro ball in like Greece or something.

If that opportunity dries up, he otherwise has a bright future in pro wrestling.