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ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:40 pm Once again, a helluva response to a post about gaslighting, twocoach.

If you REALLY want me to give you the reason, AGAIN, it’s that I don’t think we should trust the Ukraine war narrative cuz so many other war narratives turned out to be untrustworthy too.

That’s teed up for you now. If you want me to look like an idiot, then just articulate why the exact same dipshits who derped us about WMDs in Iraq are suddenly playing us straight on Ukraine.

It’s that simple!

Your move!

Or, if you want this thread to die, then simply stop replying, and I will too.

Overlander wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:39 pm This thread is like one of those annoying dolls that screeches phrases when you pull its’ string.

But Oussy just keeps pulling the string….

The Washington Post reports on a secret Russian memo obtained by European intelligence services which pretty much confirms what has been obvious as hell since at least 2016: that Russia has been waging propaganda campaigns within the United States in an effort to promote isolationist and extremist policies an in effort to undermine the country and its NATO allies:

Russia is seeking to subvert Western support for Ukraine and disrupt the domestic politics of the United States and European countries, through propaganda campaigns supporting isolationist and extremist policies, according to Kremlin documents previously reported on by The Post. It is also seeking to refashion geopolitics, drawing closer to China, Iran and North Korea in an attempt to shift the current balance of power . . .

“For Putin, it is absolutely natural that he should try to create the maximum number of problems for the U.S.,” he said. “The task is to take the U.S. out of the game, and then destroy NATO. This doesn’t mean dissolving it, but to create the feeling among people that NATO isn’t defending them.”

These efforts have been highly successful, as all manner of pro-Putin positions are, essentially, Republican Party and conservative media policy.

Republicans themselves are increasingly acknowledging this, with the chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Texas Republican Michael McCaul, saying in an interview last week that Russian propaganda has “infected a good chunk of my party’s base” and suggested that conservative media is to blame. Earlier this week Rep. Michael R. Turner (R-Ohio), who chairs the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said that it was “absolutely true” that Republican members of Congress were repeating Russian propaganda about the invasion of Ukraine instigated by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Some, like Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, aren’t trying to hide it. They’re coming right out and saying that we should enter into a “peace treaty” with Putin in which Russia is simply gifted a big chunk of Ukraine. There have been reports that Trump, if elected, will pursue exactly that policy. Meanwhile, the man currently considered to be the leading contender to be Trump’s vice presidential candidate, J.D. Vance, is openly advancing Putin’s agenda in so brazen and obvious a fashion that he’s parroting the dictator’s exact words.

We’re several years removed from the days in which we talked a lot about how Russia has compromising intelligence on Trump and is thereby forcing him to do their bidding or the idea that Russian bot farms have infected wide swaths of social media in an effort to spread propaganda or to alter the outcome of U.S. elections. But it’s pretty clear that that did indeed happen and that now there are literally sitting Members of Congress who are, formally or informally, Russian assets. And the man who could be our next president is one as well.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:40 am Lots of protests at (particularly Northeast) schools going on.

NYPD arrested hundreds of students at Columbia

Yale students staging a protest and hunger strike to show support

I honestly wish we could discuss this and compare historic parallels and such. But I know the only thing this place is good for is to ask:

why would Putin do this?

Shirley wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:18 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:40 am Lots of protests at (particularly Northeast) schools going on.

NYPD arrested hundreds of students at Columbia

Yale students staging a protest and hunger strike to show support

I honestly wish we could discuss this and compare historic parallels and such. But I know the only thing this place is good for is to ask:

why would Putin do this?

You're joking, right?

Yale University History Professor Timothy Snyder joins MSNBC’s Jonathan Capehart to discuss why pro-Putin propaganda is so prevalent in the Republican Party.

Doing Russia’s bidding: Snyder calls out GOP ‘Putin wing’ to their faces in Hill hearing

Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:00 pm Please let them get crushed in elections…

Overlander wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:11 pm It does feel like the MAGA movement is petering out, to some degree.

At least, I am hopeful.

Am I wrong to dream of a jet ski crash for Marge?