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Press conference Wednesday at 10. Goff has a great opportunity to have the KU job for a long, long time. Let's freaking go.

Now go get Leipold and KU might be on to something.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:19 pm I am fine with Goff, but that move doesn't by any means guarantee us a top football coach candidate.

If Goff wasn't a KU-guy I'd be pretty underwhelmed with the hire; it's not hiring a position coach as your head football coach type of thing, but you know...

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:43 pm coach searches: tennis? rowing?

Women’s basketball
Baseball

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:30 pm I still think we are some time out on a HC hire.

Agree. Jones is getting 2021.

If Jones get 2021 that will be a mistake. Potentially a huge mistake. If you have the chance to get a Monken or Leipold you get either one of them RIGHT freaking NOW.

sdoyel wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:37 pm

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:30 pm I still think we are some time out on a HC hire.

Agree. Jones is getting 2021.

I don't know about that, but Goff is going to get at least several weeks on this to interview his candidates.

So far, the names we heard are just leaking from the coaches' camps. Who knows how serious either side is about them. There are names that we don't know about.

holidaysmore wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:06 am If Jones get 2021 that will be a mistake. Potentially a huge mistake. If you have the chance to get a Monken or Leipold you get either one of them RIGHT freaking NOW.

It's not crazy to think that going out and hiring Monken or Leipold right now would immediately pay dividends this fall. There is talent on this roster. Those coaches have experience over Jones and could win us a couple games and be competitive in a lot more. Now, I think we could wait until after the season and still hire Monken or Fritz. Leipold is the one you have to worry about getting a better offer if you let him coach Buffalo for 2021. That's another reason I wouldn't risk it. The results of treating 2021 like a throwaway year or a tryout for the interim coach could be a disaster. Yes, the players love him and want to play for him but that's not enough. Put the right coach in place and the players will be fine.

If the guy you want will come here right now, there is absolutely no reason to delay it. In fact, it would be pretty damn stupid to delay it.

I am just hesitant to believe that these names of successful coaches we are throwing around are actually that interested.

For everyone shitting on Emmett Jones getting the job, he is honestly the level of candidate that is truly attracted to the job.

Wasn’t Beaty too?

The top 3 names that keep coming up (Monken, Leipold, and Fritz) aren't just message board fodder that fans are throwing around. Their names keep coming up in coaching circles as being both interested and good fits for the job.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:34 am Wasn’t Beaty too?

Yes, and I'm not sure what would make the job more attractive now than when Beaty took it. The roster is in a little better shape, but overall, the job is a big frickin' mess right now.

UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:37 am The top 3 names that keep coming up (Monken, Leipold, and Fritz) aren't just message board fodder that fans are throwing around. Their names keep coming up in coaching circles as being both interested and good fits for the job.

I agree. But, agents.


One thing that came out in the Long deposition was that there were names that absolutely no one was talking about as serious candidates. Candidates that he actually met with. And, names that were speculated on by coaching circles and message boards that he never met with.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:39 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:34 am Wasn’t Beaty too?

Yes, and I'm not sure what would make the job more attractive now than when Beaty took it. The roster is in a little better shape, but overall, the job is a big frickin' mess right now.

You're not that far off for sure. But it seems that these names are for real this time. Genuine interest. I mean Monken mentioned this job as one that he doesn't have a buyout for.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:40 am

UnholyLivingDead wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:37 am The top 3 names that keep coming up (Monken, Leipold, and Fritz) aren't just message board fodder that fans are throwing around. Their names keep coming up in coaching circles as being both interested and good fits for the job.

I agree. But, agents.


One thing that came out in the Long deposition was that there were names that absolutely no one was talking about as serious candidates. Candidates that he actually met with. And, names that were speculated on by coaching circles and message boards that he never met with.

Leipold just received an extension and raise just a year ago.
Fritz just got one 6 months ago.
Monken is the only one with any purpose for this because his contract expires after next year. He's the only one with true leverage.

I think everyone listed is interested. You get a fresh start by all accounts. New AD, a more involved chancellor, a basketball coach who is here for the next 15 years.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:39 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:34 am Wasn’t Beaty too?

Yes, and I'm not sure what would make the job more attractive now than when Beaty took it. The roster is in a little better shape, but overall, the job is a big frickin' mess right now.

You're not that far off for sure. But it seems that these names are for real this time. Genuine interest. I mean Monken mentioned this job as one that he doesn't have a buyout for.

I think if Monken is interested now, then he would have also been interested each of the last two openings. Obviously, same with Fritz. Liepold would have been nowhere near the radar.

Again, not saying they aren't interested, just that I don't think we are rounding third base with any candidate right now. This is Goff's call.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:55 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:39 am

Yes, and I'm not sure what would make the job more attractive now than when Beaty took it. The roster is in a little better shape, but overall, the job is a big frickin' mess right now.

You're not that far off for sure. But it seems that these names are for real this time. Genuine interest. I mean Monken mentioned this job as one that he doesn't have a buyout for.

I think if Monken is interested now, then he would have also been interested each of the last two openings. Obviously, same with Fritz. Liepold would have been nowhere near the radar.

Again, not saying they aren't interested, just that I don't think we are rounding third base with any candidate right now. This is Goff's call.

Agree. I think Monken is ready for something new. He accomplished some great things at Army like beating Navy, giving OU a run in Norman, pushing Michigan to OT. He is ready now, I think.

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:58 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:55 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 am

You're not that far off for sure. But it seems that these names are for real this time. Genuine interest. I mean Monken mentioned this job as one that he doesn't have a buyout for.

I think if Monken is interested now, then he would have also been interested each of the last two openings. Obviously, same with Fritz. Liepold would have been nowhere near the radar.

Again, not saying they aren't interested, just that I don't think we are rounding third base with any candidate right now. This is Goff's call.

Agree. I think Monken is ready for something new. He accomplished some great things at Army like beating Navy, giving OU a run in Norman, pushing Michigan to OT. He is ready now, I think.

I have also read that he has said if he would move to P5 that he would run more of a spread offense. Mixed feelings on that. I don't want the option, but I think he would need some major help to play a spread.

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 am

NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:58 am

CrimsonNBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:55 am

I think if Monken is interested now, then he would have also been interested each of the last two openings. Obviously, same with Fritz. Liepold would have been nowhere near the radar.

Again, not saying they aren't interested, just that I don't think we are rounding third base with any candidate right now. This is Goff's call.

Agree. I think Monken is ready for something new. He accomplished some great things at Army like beating Navy, giving OU a run in Norman, pushing Michigan to OT. He is ready now, I think.

I have also read that he has said if he would move to P5 that he would run more of a spread offense. Mixed feelings on that. I don't want the option, but I think he would need some major help to play a spread.

I've heard that as well. He's going to have option concepts though to his offense. He's been involved in an option offense for like 25 years. That won't go away, but he knows he won't be able to get guys here if he runs a triple-option offense.

Just to touch on Fritz, it's no secret he wanted the job the last 2 times it came open. There was some chatter when Miles was let go that perhaps Fritz wouldn't be interested this time because he was slighted at the way KU completely ignored him the last 2 times the job was available. But that sounds, at least for now, to not be the case. The guy is from Kansas and wants to coach KU. That doesn't make him my top choice though, I'd rather have Monken or Leipold.