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Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by Mjl
NewtonHawk11 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:51 pm
Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm
I don't think this will be popular opinion, but with the lineup as it stands now, I would go
Harris
Yesufu
Ochai
Wilson
Dave
With Thompson, Braun, and Martin being the reserves (since Self doesn't generally go more than 8 deep, regardless of how deep we think we are every off-season).
That's not a bad lineup and rotation at all. Think Clemence gets some run though as Wilson's backup.
Hopefully, yeah
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:00 pm
by Deleted User 89
hasbeen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:52 pm
Mjl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:49 pm
I don't think this will be popular opinion, but with the lineup as it stands now, I would go
Harris
Yesufu
Ochai
Wilson
Dave
With Thompson, Braun, and Martin being the reserves (since Self doesn't generally go more than 8 deep, regardless of how deep we think we are every off-season).
I could see that, especially if Bill tells Braun to come off the bench and shoot literally every time he touches it. That could be helpful for him.
My issue with Harris is that in every game he looks like the little kid who plays pickup with the older kids and everyone freaks out when he makes a 3 because he's 10 years younger than everyone else.
lol...spot on about Harris
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:04 pm
by ousdahl
OK here’s today’s take:
DMac
Jalen
Och
Bryce
Yesufu
Backup big: Cam
Backup 2-4: Braun (eeek but ok this might be swapped with Bryce)
Backup pg: Harris
That’s a lot more potent 8-man than anything we put on the court this/last year.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:07 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:04 pm
OK here’s today’s take:
DMac
Jalen
Och
Bryce
Yesufu
Backup big: Cam
Backup 2-4: Braun (eeek but ok this might be swapped with Bryce)
Backup pg: Harris
That’s a lot more potent 8-man than anything we put on the court this/last year.
Uh, it looks pretty much the same other than trading Garrett for a Missouri Valley guard that would rather play the 2.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:09 pm
by ousdahl
Thanks, gutter. Missed you!
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:12 pm
by ousdahl
At the very least, I’m looking forward to our backup big being big enough to play big, and have ink.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:14 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:09 pm
Thanks, gutter. Missed you!
But, I'm not wrong.
The day after the USC game I stated that our only choice was to bring in a transfer PG and try and run it back and hope that everyone gets better.
That's exactly what is happening. Majorly counting on big strides from our starters. Starters you hate more than anyone!
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:20 pm
by ousdahl
Just upgrading our big depth alone should be worth a swing of like 9 points a game.
And consistency and percentages should improve up and down. Maybe even Och does senior things!
But yeah. I’m just glad CnB didn’t pretend to see some kid shot in the head
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:26 pm
by Mjl
Thompson, Ochai, Braun, and Wilson need to improve their three point shooting. That's where we're going to see real gains I think/hope.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:32 pm
by ousdahl
That could have also made Marcus Garrett look like a good point guard
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:35 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:32 pm
That could have also made Marcus Garrett look like a good point guard
In my opinion, I think you have the chicken and the egg mixed up, and why I do think those guys are better next season.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:38 pm
by pdub
If Ochai, Braun and Wilson each improve their 3 point shooting by 3-4% each, we will be, just from that alone, a much better team, if our style remains the same.
Need Svi-like freshman to sophomore improvement from 3 from Thompson.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:38 pm
by ousdahl
Yeah, maybe.
though, Garrett’s primary pg duties this year involved trying to force a pass into a double teamed post.
Either way, I hope next year involves more guard activity, both on and off the ball
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:44 pm
by InfiniteJ
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:22 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:20 pm
jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:18 pm
These two things can both be true: (1) he should have started that many games, on the roster we had, and (2) we would have been much better if the roster was such that he didn't deserve to start 26 games.
Sure, we would have been better with can't miss future NBA players at every single position. Unfortunately we don't have a single one of those on our roster this year or next year.
That says more about the program than it does Jalen.
He's Marcus Morris-lite. That's an enormous compliment, that for some reason gets taken as an insult.
Marcus Morris-lite in what way?
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:46 pm
by InfiniteJ
ousdahl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:04 pm
OK here’s today’s take:
DMac
Jalen
Och
Bryce
Yesufu
Backup big: Cam
Backup 2-4: Braun (eeek but ok this might be swapped with Bryce)
Backup pg: Harris
That’s a lot more potent 8-man than anything we put on the court this/last year.
Everyone sleeping on Pettiford...
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:47 pm
by pdub
Jalen had a better season his freshman year than Marcus Morris did his.
And 2009 wasn't a powerhouse team.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:51 pm
by ousdahl
Morrii were overwhelmed as freshmen.
But the thing about freshmen is, they become sophomores.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:55 pm
by InfiniteJ
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:47 pm
Jalen had a better season his freshman year than Marcus Morris did his.
And 2009 wasn't a powerhouse team.
27-8, 14-2.
Jalen didn't play with Cole and Sherron.
Jalen might have had better stats, but he can't carry Marcus' jockstrap.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:58 pm
by pdub
Not sure if we remember back to what Marcus was in 2009.
Wish those boreds still existed so we could see what was said.
It wasn't Morris 2010 and 11, I can promise you that.
And 09 was a pretty down year when it comes to the B12 ( why we were only a 3 seed despite winning the thing ).
Both Marcus and Jalen made the all-rookie team.
Re: 21-22 lineup
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:07 pm
by Deleted User 89
pdub wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:58 pm
Not sure if we remember back to what Marcus was in 2009.
Wish those boreds still existed so we could see what was said.
It wasn't Morris 2010 and 11, I can promise you that.
And 09 was a pretty down year when it comes to the B12 ( why we were only a 3 seed despite winning the thing ).
Both Marcus and Jalen made the all-rookie team.
i remember both bros getting clowned for “not being able to dunk”