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Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:35 am
by ousdahl
I mean, with our better teams, even if a Dayton-type opponent went on a second half run, we’d have the poise to make adjustments and still win the game prob by double digits.

This team tensed up, and never quite regained composure.

These guys just need to learn how to react to getting punched in the face

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:10 am
by CrimsonNBlue
We went down by 7(?), and fought back and took a 3 point lead with our two lead guys making big clutch plays in the final minute. We regained composure and took the punch and threw our own.

But then it was bad coaching (and play) when trying to seal the win. The offensive foul play call and then leaving timeouts on the board.

Edit: fouls on the board.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:14 pm
by pdub
Not an offensive foul tho.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:55 pm
by Deleted User 863
jfish26 wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:31 am
BasketballJayhawk wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:56 am
ousdahl wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:27 am It’s concerning to see how quickly we regressed back to playing tight.
That's one of the trademarks of a Self coached team during his time at KU. The tendency to get tighter than normal against shitty teams for really no reason. Dayton isn't even good.
I’m guessing every single blueblood fan base would say this about their team. It’s just how the sport works.
Absolutely. And the handful of bad losses always stick out more than the hundreds of wins.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:05 pm
by Cascadia
I left for a birthday party immediately after the final shot. Looks like I missed quite the meltdown.

My takeaways

1. Self missed a huge opportunity to put confidence in Remy or Agbaji on the final offensive play.
2. Dave, in context, is awful
3. That was definitely an offensive foul on Dave

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:35 pm
by twocoach
Cascadia wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:05 pm I left for a birthday party immediately after the final shot. Looks like I missed quite the meltdown.

My takeaways

1. Self missed a huge opportunity to put confidence in Remy or Agbaji on the final offensive play.
2. Dave, in context, is awful
3. That was definitely an offensive foul on Dave
Not that plus/minus is an awesome tool but DMac was a +8 yesterday while Jalen Wilson and Mitch were each a -10 and Harris was a -8. At least DMac played some defense while he was sucking at offense. Wilson and Mitch sucked at both ends of the floor.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:53 pm
by Deleted User 863
Cascadia wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:05 pm I left for a birthday party immediately after the final shot. Looks like I missed quite the meltdown.

My takeaways

1. Self missed a huge opportunity to put confidence in Remy or Agbaji on the final offensive play.
This was the most maddening aspect of it all.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:02 pm
by pdub
Shoulda been in Agbajis hands.

That said, I think Self knows what he’s doing.

He’s a top 5 coach in the NCAA.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:04 pm
by pdub
Also if you think that was an offensive foul on Dave, you are bad at understanding basketball.

It’s a physical game.
It should always be that.
Don’t fault players just because they are bigger.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:06 pm
by pdub
That amount on contact happens more often in the game with no call.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:11 pm
by pdub
twocoach wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:35 pm
Cascadia wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:05 pm I left for a birthday party immediately after the final shot. Looks like I missed quite the meltdown.

My takeaways

1. Self missed a huge opportunity to put confidence in Remy or Agbaji on the final offensive play.
2. Dave, in context, is awful
3. That was definitely an offensive foul on Dave
Not that plus/minus is an awesome tool but DMac was a +8 yesterday while Jalen Wilson and Mitch were each a -10 and Harris was a -8. At least DMac played some defense while he was sucking at offense. Wilson and Mitch sucked at both ends of the floor.
Everyone but Ochai and Braun was bad yesterday.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:34 pm
by ousdahl
Braun!

*sighs dreamily *

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:11 pm
by pdub
No more bows and arrows, only hearts.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:01 pm
by Cascadia
Just watched the replay of the Dave charge call. It's on the softer side and I think most people want the refs to swallow the whistle in that situation but Dave doesn't need to bang the defender with that much force that far from the basket.

Another great thing about YouTubeTV is the ability to watch at .25, .50 and .75 speeds. Dave drills the dude.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:02 pm
by Cascadia
Also, pretty sure Remy fucked up on the final play. He looks lost and confused.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:18 pm
by pdub
I have watch ESPN as well.
If I have a moment tomorrow I'll make a gif to prove the weakness.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:28 pm
by pdub
gtfo out with this.
You want to argue it, you're on the wrong bored, and following the wrong sport.
That ref. My god man.

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Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:33 pm
by pdub
But also LOL at Dejuan in the corner.
No respect at all.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:58 pm
by Deleted User 863
pdub wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:33 pm But also LOL at Dejuan in the corner.
No respect at all.
That's piss poor coaching right there.

Re: Black Friday Game Thread: KU vs Dayton

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:03 pm
by Cascadia
All 4 players could be wide open, Dave doesn't pass the ball back out.