Kansas Crimson

KUTradition wrote: ↑Sat Jun 15, 2024 12:58 pm i very much agree with that

ousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:56 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 9:18 am

ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:43 am

I do think it’s blatantly obvious that the evidence here suggests this IS a U.S. proxy war in Ukraine. (Israel too!)

It’s you who summarily disregards the evidence presented, while also gloating about how this war helps U.S. interests like weakening Russia and flexing on China, as if that isn’t even more evidence of war by proxy in itself.

For real, how do you ignore the U.S.’s decades of meddling in Ukraine, the bajillions in weapons support, the more strategic support yet, the boots on the ground, the CIA black ops sites, the victory-lap pep rallies in the immediate aftermath of Maidan, MC’d by none other than Biden himself (oh hey we’re actually on topic here!), even if we somehow don’t bother to consider whether the U.S. was directly involved in Maidan either way.

I didn’t expect “proxy war” to be such a trigger. But I’ll admit, “right-wing” is a trigger for me. Rather, I think the more right-wing position espoused here is your dogged insistence upon the hawk-nationalist rhetoric about unprovoked, unilateral, one-to-tango perception of Ukraine, as if all the evidence just presented to you - once again! - is somehow immaterial.

But let’s not dwell on Ukraine, cuz we all know you can offer little more than another parroting of the WMDs-in-Iraq sort of talking points and a stubborn refusal to understand anything but.

Cuz honestly, I might walk back the “expand the police state.” Biden did sign off on billions to law enforcement, without addressing any sort of law enforcement reform, despite the wake of the BLM protests; not to mention the dozens of Cop Cities currently being built with him in the big chair.

As for environment, his big green bill seemed like a wolf in sheep’s clothing, considering all the concessions it made to oil. He also just relaxed fuel efficiency goals for passenger cars. He also crippled environmental regs for the sake of border security.

Speaking of, he did campaign in ‘20 on rhetoric like preserving access to asylum to migrant refugees, to contrast himself with Trump’s more hardline stance; only to now sign off on a more Trumpian limiting of access to asylum to migrant refugees.

Biden's "lack" of addressing police reform:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... -rcna30548

So you're wrong, he hasn't done nothing.

"He also just relaxed fuel efficiency goals for passenger cars"? He didn't "relax" the target. It is just not as low as his original proposal while still being lower than what it was previously.
https://apnews.com/article/gas-mileage- ... e4c69a9847

And we can quibble about the semantics of the term "proxy war" all you want. We are helping a country avoid being taken over by Russia. So are almost all of the nations of Europe with whom we are allies. It is the right thing to do globally.

"He also crippled environmental regs for the sake of border security." Yeah, you're going to need to provide some linked details on what specifically you feel is "crippling environmental regs". Sorry if I don't just assume you are or aren't right about that. You obviously have something specific on your mind.

And I have zero problem with Biden limiting the number of people who have access to asylum requests right now. The numbers are at an unsustainable volume at this time. A good leader adjusts to realities and isn't blindly beholden to their statements from 4 years ago regardless of the reality of the situation. He has not eliminated the ability to request asylum.

Like I said, I might be willing to walk back the stuff about the police state. Biden didn’t fully leverage the momentum of BLM and defund the police, but he at least did that EO you link.

I think “just not as low as his original (efficiency) proposal” is more or less synonymous with to “relax” the original proposal, but let’s not bicker about vocabulary.

I also think “helping another country” in matters of war is synonymous with helping by “proxy,” but again.

Here’s the environmental regs link: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politi ... outh-texas

It was discussed here at the time, and, as far as I can remember, I think it’s the last time trad and I agreed about anything…at least out loud. (Sigh)

Fwiw a lot of civil/human rights/immigrant advocacy/other such groups are taking issue with Biden’s limiting of asylum. IIRC there’s also random arbitrary rules in effect like, once granted the asylum provsss a refugee has all of four hours to find a lawyer and begin the legal process, or else they gotta go.

It’s just surprising how quickly so many dems went from “Trump’s border policies are racist” to “a good leader adjusts to realities”

Sparko wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:00 pm Damned Bidenomics. LOL! I saw a comment on .commie lamenting the difficulty completing complex construction projects of the new KU stadium. Poster One blamed Biden of course. But the crack-down on immigration and the hot competition in the building sector leads to price increases. The latter is a good thing. If you can rent experts for pennies on the dollar, that would be objectively bad. Hot economic activity is a goal of course.

They know not what.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:32 pm I spent 28 bucks at taco bell last night. bidenomics at work.

Shirley wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:13 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:32 pm I spent 28 bucks at taco bell last night. bidenomics at work.

Tell us you're a P I G without telling us you're a P I G.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:42 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:13 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:32 pm I spent 28 bucks at taco bell last night. bidenomics at work.

Tell us you're a P I G without telling us you're a P I G.

My hope is he bought food for other people but my hope is also that it wasn't his grandkid/s that he bought the food for and poisoned.

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:32 pm I spent 28 bucks at taco bell last night. bidenomics at work.

Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:56 pm

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:32 pm I spent 28 bucks at taco bell last night. bidenomics at work.

Joe Biden forced you to eat shitty food?

MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:10 am intelligence is not my strong suit