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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 1:53 pm
by jhawks99
Mich hates free enterprise

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 2:01 pm
by Cascadia
MICH, the big government republican

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 2:02 pm
by Deleted User 89
Cascadia wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:36 pm I wonder how MICH feels about “No shoes, No shirt, No service”. Or, dress requirements at certain establishments.

Cause, you know, fuck private businesses being allowed to establish their own rules.
lol...mich hasn’t ever been to such a place

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 2:06 pm
by Deleted User 880
MICHHAWK wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 1:42 pm i am a private citizen and i establish my own rules. my version of the "no shirt no shoes no service" is "the cdc and the great state of Michigan say no mask required. if you say mask required, i keep on driving."

works both ways.
We live in a country of laws and rules. It's up to you to decide if/how you want to abide by them but there are often unpleasant consequences if you don't follow them. No matter who is making them and what they are.
I had to pick up a blood pressure script yesterday at Walgreen's. Masks are required. I don't wear a mask, I don't get my script. I put on a mask for 3 minutes. I've done much worse things.
I didn't like that I had to wear the mask but I wasn't going to "boycott" the store or be an asshole because of it.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:02 pm
by Mjl
Leawood wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 12:34 pm I’m waiting for another surge. Walked to my local CVS to pick up a prescription when there was a break with the rain. The three bars/restaurants were packed. No masks. We will see.
You should see Vegas now. Friday they switched their policy to no-masks-for-vaccinated people and tables are full and everything is packed. Pretty much nobody was wearing masks. It was really... I don't know... Weird?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 9:08 am
by twocoach
Mjl wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 8:02 pm
Leawood wrote: Mon May 17, 2021 12:34 pm I’m waiting for another surge. Walked to my local CVS to pick up a prescription when there was a break with the rain. The three bars/restaurants were packed. No masks. We will see.
You should see Vegas now. Friday they switched their policy to no-masks-for-vaccinated people and tables are full and everything is packed. Pretty much nobody was wearing masks. It was really... I don't know... Weird?
Leaving it to the Honor System is fundamentally flawed. Most of those who behave honorably towards others got vaccinated.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 10:59 am
by Deleted User 89

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 11:21 am
by twocoach
TraditionKU wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 10:59 am did someone say honor system?

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/ ... ood-enough
The only person in my house that is unvaccinated is my almost 8 year old so she will continue to wear a mask when we go places for the foreseeable future. There will places where tyhe rest of us continue to wear a mask as well. It just depends on what it is and how we feel about the situation. We'll see how everything goes when they inevitably lift our local mask mandates. As a family, I suspect that we will still be cautious and choosy about where we go for several more months. I don't see us going to any movie theaters any time soon.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 12:22 pm
by jfish26
twocoach wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:21 am
TraditionKU wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 10:59 am did someone say honor system?

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/ ... ood-enough
The only person in my house that is unvaccinated is my almost 8 year old so she will continue to wear a mask when we go places for the foreseeable future. There will places where tyhe rest of us continue to wear a mask as well. It just depends on what it is and how we feel about the situation. We'll see how everything goes when they inevitably lift our local mask mandates. As a family, I suspect that we will still be cautious and choosy about where we go for several more months. I don't see us going to any movie theaters any time soon.
Is there something to your hesitation beyond the possibility that your daughter might contract Covid? Because otherwise...I think you're good, man.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 1:10 pm
by hasbeen
jfish26 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 12:22 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:21 am
TraditionKU wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 10:59 am did someone say honor system?

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/ ... ood-enough
The only person in my house that is unvaccinated is my almost 8 year old so she will continue to wear a mask when we go places for the foreseeable future. There will places where tyhe rest of us continue to wear a mask as well. It just depends on what it is and how we feel about the situation. We'll see how everything goes when they inevitably lift our local mask mandates. As a family, I suspect that we will still be cautious and choosy about where we go for several more months. I don't see us going to any movie theaters any time soon.
Is there something to your hesitation beyond the possibility that your daughter might contract Covid? Because otherwise...I think you're good, man.
Seems like a reasonable concern?

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 1:25 pm
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 12:22 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:21 am
TraditionKU wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 10:59 am did someone say honor system?

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/ ... ood-enough
The only person in my house that is unvaccinated is my almost 8 year old so she will continue to wear a mask when we go places for the foreseeable future. There will places where tyhe rest of us continue to wear a mask as well. It just depends on what it is and how we feel about the situation. We'll see how everything goes when they inevitably lift our local mask mandates. As a family, I suspect that we will still be cautious and choosy about where we go for several more months. I don't see us going to any movie theaters any time soon.
Is there something to your hesitation beyond the possibility that your daughter might contract Covid? Because otherwise...I think you're good, man.
You can still get covid even if vaccinated and I would prefer not to risk my lungs or worse. I plan to ski on my 70th birthday. Like I said, it will be a case by case basis. It will take a bit before the wince response stops happening when I see a big group of people smashed together.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 1:32 pm
by NewtonHawk11
As my RN wife pointed out to me recently. You can still contract Covid, this vaccination just helps reduce the severity of the sickness. As she described it, you likely won't be on a hospital bed if you get it, you probably won't even know you had it.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 1:38 pm
by jfish26
hasbeen wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 1:10 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 12:22 pm
twocoach wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:21 am

The only person in my house that is unvaccinated is my almost 8 year old so she will continue to wear a mask when we go places for the foreseeable future. There will places where tyhe rest of us continue to wear a mask as well. It just depends on what it is and how we feel about the situation. We'll see how everything goes when they inevitably lift our local mask mandates. As a family, I suspect that we will still be cautious and choosy about where we go for several more months. I don't see us going to any movie theaters any time soon.
Is there something to your hesitation beyond the possibility that your daughter might contract Covid? Because otherwise...I think you're good, man.
Seems like a reasonable concern?
I guess from my standpoint, unless and until they shut schools down again, you're talking purely marginal risks.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:01 pm
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 1:38 pm
hasbeen wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 1:10 pm
jfish26 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 12:22 pm

Is there something to your hesitation beyond the possibility that your daughter might contract Covid? Because otherwise...I think you're good, man.
Seems like a reasonable concern?
I guess from my standpoint, unless and until they shut schools down again, you're talking purely marginal risks.
Most likely. But I'll be evaluating every scenario for a while just to make sure I am comfortable with her being there. I am certainly not worried enough that I want mask mandates to stay in place. It's time to take the next steps to move forward in my opinion. At least where I live.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:26 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 1:32 pm As my RN wife pointed out to me recently. You can still contract Covid, this vaccination just helps reduce the severity of the sickness. As she described it, you likely won't be on a hospital bed if you get it, you probably won't even know you had it.
Right. I will do pandemic-level masking and distancing for two weeks prior to travel that requires testing. Not worried about dying, just don't want to fuck up plans.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:35 pm
by jfish26
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 2:26 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 1:32 pm As my RN wife pointed out to me recently. You can still contract Covid, this vaccination just helps reduce the severity of the sickness. As she described it, you likely won't be on a hospital bed if you get it, you probably won't even know you had it.
Right. I will do pandemic-level masking and distancing for two weeks prior to travel that requires testing. Not worried about dying, just don't want to fuck up plans.
What would be a good solution in your example would be some sort of "passport" permitting testless travel, so long as you could prove you received the "vaccine."

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:39 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
jfish26 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 2:35 pm
CrimsonNBlue wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 2:26 pm
NewtonHawk11 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 1:32 pm As my RN wife pointed out to me recently. You can still contract Covid, this vaccination just helps reduce the severity of the sickness. As she described it, you likely won't be on a hospital bed if you get it, you probably won't even know you had it.
Right. I will do pandemic-level masking and distancing for two weeks prior to travel that requires testing. Not worried about dying, just don't want to fuck up plans.
What would be a good solution in your example would be some sort of "passport" permitting testless travel, so long as you could prove you received the "vaccine."
Now there's an idea!

But, that would violate my constitution rights of HIPPO laws.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:44 pm
by Deleted User 89
sacrilegious

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 3:01 pm
by Walrus
Or another solution would be to do more homework on the actual threat and then you won't have to freak out.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue May 18, 2021 3:22 pm
by CrimsonNBlue
I am totally freaking out man.