Re: Another mass shooting
Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:03 am
This post illuminates one of your many defects on this subject.randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:17 pm It's a tool humans have used for centuries. But mass shootings are a newer product
viewtopic.php?t=4922randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:43 am We sent a whole bunch of AR15s to ukraine. They were pretty useful tools there huh? I know you guys all supported aiding ukraine
The citizens of Ukraine literally just needed ar15s to protect themselves from an invading governmentjfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:19 amThis post illuminates one of your many defects on this subject.randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:17 pm It's a tool humans have used for centuries. But mass shootings are a newer product
You fail to grasp that this isn't 1791. We don't burn witches at the stake, we don't use leeches as medical treatment. We have indoor plumbing. We have made trains into rollercoasters for our motherfucking enjoyment.
We do not need armed protection from the government. No matter HOW horny you are for that not to be true, it simply is true.
And the single most obvious way for it to BECOME true, sadly, is if regurgitating morons convince enough hungry morons that what is true is not true, and we give the keys to our country to those who would, for example, institutionalize trans people.
Similar (sort of) to how 2024 is not 1791, America is not Ukraine, and Canada is not Russia.randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:27 amThe citizens of Ukraine literally just needed ar15s to protect themselves from an invading governmentjfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:19 amThis post illuminates one of your many defects on this subject.randylahey wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:17 pm It's a tool humans have used for centuries. But mass shootings are a newer product
You fail to grasp that this isn't 1791. We don't burn witches at the stake, we don't use leeches as medical treatment. We have indoor plumbing. We have made trains into rollercoasters for our motherfucking enjoyment.
We do not need armed protection from the government. No matter HOW horny you are for that not to be true, it simply is true.
And the single most obvious way for it to BECOME true, sadly, is if regurgitating morons convince enough hungry morons that what is true is not true, and we give the keys to our country to those who would, for example, institutionalize trans people.
Pipe dreamrandylahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:21 amNurturing environments.Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:33 amNo, pretty spot on actually.randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 12:23 am Morphine is pretty good shit
But you're sidestepping. Your fentanyl analogy was terrible and has nothing to do with guns or knives
You literally can swap up the bad thing and it works every time.
“Mountain Lions are killing more people than ever.”
“Well, looks like we need more mountain lions!”
See?
There’s an ironic parallel - for there, like here, and for that matter all the other parts of the world we’ve flooded with weapons…randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:43 am We sent a whole bunch of AR15s to ukraine. They were pretty useful tools there huh? I know you guys all supported aiding ukraine
Among right-leaning thinkers, you are among an incredibly small minority in suggesting so.randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:03 amColorado has done it lately. Kansas should too. Wolves once called the prairie home
Randy's going to tell you that was a tangent, and he's going to come back to needing to be armed for protection against our own government.pdub wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:34 am Being concerned whether our citizens having assault rifles would help stop an invasion would be similar to being concerned if Dillon Wilhite was ready to start in the NCAA tournament if we needed him.
If we need Dillon Wilhite in a big game, we're probably already fucked.
I convinced a rancher to stop removing (killing) the beavers that kept trying to establish along the stream that cuts through his property, and since his land has flourished over the past decadeousdahl wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:44 amAmong right-leaning thinkers, you are among an incredibly small minority in suggesting so.randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:03 amColorado has done it lately. Kansas should too. Wolves once called the prairie home
Guns could disappear but violence wouldn't. The recent mass stabbing is an examplejfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:45 amRandy's going to tell you that was a tangent, and he's going to come back to needing to be armed for protection against our own government.pdub wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:34 am Being concerned whether our citizens having assault rifles would help stop an invasion would be similar to being concerned if Dillon Wilhite was ready to start in the NCAA tournament if we needed him.
If we need Dillon Wilhite in a big game, we're probably already fucked.
Of course, the Randies of the world have eagerly ensured that any horny local police department has ample access to the sort of equipment and materiel that would make the guns in my or anyone's safe absolutely meaningless.
The fundamental problem Randy cannot solve is that people keep demonstrating, over and over and over and over, that we as a society cannot be trusted with assault rifles. They simply allow ONE bad guy to do WAY TOO MUCH harm, harm that is self-evidently NOT prevented by any number of good guys with any number of guns, and harm that is self-evidently NOT limited to "thugs" or "bad guys" or "self-defense" or what the hell ever.
And unfortunately, the way a society works is that we all suffer limitations on our personal freedoms when enough of us demonstrate that we are incapable of being trusted to the full extent of those freedoms.
Nobody has ever, ONE TIME, said anything to the contrary. Stop arguing against points that literally nobody is making.randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:57 amGuns could disappear but violence wouldn't. The recent mass stabbing is an examplejfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:45 amRandy's going to tell you that was a tangent, and he's going to come back to needing to be armed for protection against our own government.pdub wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:34 am Being concerned whether our citizens having assault rifles would help stop an invasion would be similar to being concerned if Dillon Wilhite was ready to start in the NCAA tournament if we needed him.
If we need Dillon Wilhite in a big game, we're probably already fucked.
Of course, the Randies of the world have eagerly ensured that any horny local police department has ample access to the sort of equipment and materiel that would make the guns in my or anyone's safe absolutely meaningless.
The fundamental problem Randy cannot solve is that people keep demonstrating, over and over and over and over, that we as a society cannot be trusted with assault rifles. They simply allow ONE bad guy to do WAY TOO MUCH harm, harm that is self-evidently NOT prevented by any number of good guys with any number of guns, and harm that is self-evidently NOT limited to "thugs" or "bad guys" or "self-defense" or what the hell ever.
And unfortunately, the way a society works is that we all suffer limitations on our personal freedoms when enough of us demonstrate that we are incapable of being trusted to the full extent of those freedoms.