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Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:42 pm
by Deleted User 863
"Thousands of American University of Afghanistan students and graduates were left behind"
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/31/opinions ... index.html
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:55 pm
by twocoach
Do you feel that the US needed to be responsible for these people? If so, why?
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:12 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:55 pm
Do you feel that the US needed to be responsible for these people? If so, why?
Did you read the article? If not, no reason to reply to my post sharing it.
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:32 pm
by Deleted User 89
https://www.axios.com/us-announces-join ... 8232e.html
U.S. announces joint arrangement to continue evacuating Afghan allies past Aug. 31
The United States, along with 97 other countries, announced Sunday that they had reached an agreement with the Taliban to allow them to continue to get Afghan allies out of the country after the Aug. 31 withdrawal deadline.
Why it matters: "We are all committed to ensuring that our citizens, nationals and residents, employees, Afghans who have worked with us and those who are at risk can continue to travel freely to destinations outside Afghanistan," the joint statement said.
"We have received assurances from the Taliban that all foreign nationals and any Afghan citizen with travel authorization from our countries will be allowed to proceed in a safe and orderly manner to points of departure and travel outside the country," the statement continued.
"We will continue issuing travel documentation to designated Afghans, and we have the clear expectation of and commitment from the Taliban that they can travel to our respective countries. We note the public statements of the Taliban confirming this understanding."
Sher Mohammed Abas Stanekzai, the Taliban's chief negotiator, said on Friday that the group would not stop people from departing.
Of note: National security adviser Jake Sullivan said on "Face the Nation" the U.S. has "considerable leverage" to "hold the Taliban to its commitments."
"The Taliban have communicated to us ... that they're allowing for safe passage. We’re not just going to take their word for it," he added.
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:59 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:12 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:55 pm
Do you feel that the US needed to be responsible for these people? If so, why?
Did you read the article? If not, no reason to reply to my post sharing it.
I did. My question stands.
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:07 pm
by sdoyel
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:00 pm
Whoa, the USC game, interesting analogy.
so yer sayin maybe Afghanistan would have gone better if we tried getting Tyon Grant-Foster more minutes?
Yeah, thank goodness we didn't have any players die in that game...
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:12 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:59 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:12 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:55 pm
Do you feel that the US needed to be responsible for these people? If so, why?
Did you read the article? If not, no reason to reply to my post sharing it.
I did. My question stands.
The article or headline?
I thought it was pretty cool to hear how we have/had helped create a university that so many people had great pride in. Green spaces. Soccer fields. Classrooms. Campus. Those aren't things that typically come to mind for many of us (Americans) when we think of Afghanistan. I thought that was interesting to think about and reflect on.
It can be eye opening to read words from people who actually live there and experience what is going on in these parts of the world. Some of the video interviews via skype or whatever have also been very interesting to watch.
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:15 pm
by ousdahl
sdoyel wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:07 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:00 pm
Whoa, the USC game, interesting analogy.
so yer sayin maybe Afghanistan would have gone better if we tried getting Tyon Grant-Foster more minutes?
Yeah, thank goodness we didn't have any players die in that game...
Yeah, though half the roster did transfer even faster than the withdrawal from Afghanistan
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:15 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:12 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:59 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:12 pm
Did you read the article? If not, no reason to reply to my post sharing it.
I did. My question stands.
The article or headline?
I thought it was pretty cool to hear how we have/had helped create a university that so many people had great pride in. Green spaces. Soccer fields. Classrooms. Campus. Those aren't things that typically come to mind for many of us (Americans) when we think of Afghanistan. I thought that was interesting to think about and reflect on.
It can be eye opening to read words from people who actually live there and experience what is going on in these parts of the world. Some of the video interviews via skype or whatever have also been very interesting to watch.
Do you feel that the US needed to be responsible for these people? If so, why?
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:17 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:15 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:12 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:59 pm
I did. My question stands.
The article or headline?
I thought it was pretty cool to hear how we have/had helped create a university that so many people had great pride in. Green spaces. Soccer fields. Classrooms. Campus. Those aren't things that typically come to mind for many of us (Americans) when we think of Afghanistan. I thought that was interesting to think about and reflect on.
It can be eye opening to read words from people who actually live there and experience what is going on in these parts of the world. Some of the video interviews via skype or whatever have also been very interesting to watch.
Do you feel that the US needed to be responsible for these people? If so, why?
Just say what you want to say....(instead of pretending to ask me what i think, so you can disagree)
If you'd like to discuss the actual article i shared (that you didn't read) then I am all ears.
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:39 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:17 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:15 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:12 pm
The article or headline?
I thought it was pretty cool to hear how we have/had helped create a university that so many people had great pride in. Green spaces. Soccer fields. Classrooms. Campus. Those aren't things that typically come to mind for many of us (Americans) when we think of Afghanistan. I thought that was interesting to think about and reflect on.
It can be eye opening to read words from people who actually live there and experience what is going on in these parts of the world. Some of the video interviews via skype or whatever have also been very interesting to watch.
Do you feel that the US needed to be responsible for these people? If so, why?
Just say what you want to say....(instead of pretending to ask me what i think, so you can disagree)
If you'd like to discuss the actual article i shared (that you didn't read) then I am all ears.
I said what I wanted to say by asking you the question I asked. If I wanted to say something else, I would have said that instead.
I suppose I'll ask a follow up to my original, unanswered question...
Did you post that article because you find it "eye opening to read words from people who actually live there and experience what is going on in these parts of the world", because you feel it reflects poorly on the Biden administration that these people want to be evaluated but were not or for some other reason?
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:50 pm
by Deleted User 89
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:52 pm
by Deleted User 863
JFC brocoach. I shared an article with no comment.
I then shared some thoughts on the article (that you probably didn't read).
I will not answer disingenuous questions. Say what you want to say or scroll on by. You couldn't care less about my thoughts (I don't blame you fwiw) and we both know it...so no need to try to set up whatever your planned rebuttal is, just say whatever it is you want to say (if you actually have something to say about the article).
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:52 pm
by Deleted User 89
twocoach...they were evaluated
the valuation just wasn’t what they’d hoped. the article doesn’t say directly, but it seems that they aren’t US citizens. so, it makes sense that they wouldn’t have been given first priority. it sucks, but hard decisions had to be made. hopefully the humanitarian efforts forthcoming will be able to get anyone remaining out that wants out
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:13 pm
by zsn
How many US military personnel are we willing to risk to evacuate them? How much money? Will there be enough Congresscritters to put authorization behind the involvement? Would you call your Rep and Senator in support of such an authorization?
I wouldn’t
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:15 pm
by Deleted User 863
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:20 pm
by Overlander
Beating this horse pretty hard...aren't you?
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:23 pm
by Deleted User 89
temper
tantrum
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:27 pm
by Deleted User 863
It's an opinion article in response to an opinion article. Providing some perspective. It's a quick read. Has some interesting things to consider.
Re: Afghanistan
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:34 pm
by twocoach
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:52 pm
twocoach...they were evaluated
the valuation just wasn’t what they’d hoped. the article doesn’t say directly, but it seems that they aren’t US citizens. so, it makes sense that they wouldn’t have been given first priority. it sucks, but hard decisions had to be made. hopefully the humanitarian efforts forthcoming will be able to get anyone remaining out that wants out
Look at that, an adult response. Thank you.
I am certain that there are a lot of cases like this where the US government stood up schools, organizations or businesses. It will be interesting to see how cases like this play out over the next few months. I agree with you that it is not surprising that they find themselves still waiting. I hope that something aligns and they find a way to get out of the country and resume their work.