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Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:45 pm
by jfish26
randylahey wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:43 pm One inconvenient thing for the libs, is 2a is actually really popular amongst minority groups. Like black Americans, trans, etc. Because of its significant value as a equalizer in protecting groups and their rights

So the libs depend so much of identity politics to secure those voting blocks, it leaves them stuck between a rock and a hard place when they pretend to be the biggest Ally of these groups, but anti gun. A true lib paradox
Support for this?

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:49 pm
by KUTradition
zero…randy just makes shit up. then, when pressed to support his claims, he either conveniently disappears or moves the goal posts

he’s got some very lobster-esque tendencies

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:54 pm
by defixione
jfish26 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:45 pm
randylahey wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:43 pm One inconvenient thing for the libs, is 2a is actually really popular amongst minority groups. Like black Americans, trans, etc. Because of its significant value as a equalizer in protecting groups and their rights

So the libs depend so much of identity politics to secure those voting blocks, it leaves them stuck between a rock and a hard place when they pretend to be the biggest Ally of these groups, but anti gun. A true lib paradox
Support for this?
That's how he *feels*.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:13 pm
by Sparko
Fighting fascists is a common goal even with moving goalposts.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:28 pm
by Mjl
jfish26 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:45 pm
randylahey wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:43 pm One inconvenient thing for the libs, is 2a is actually really popular amongst minority groups. Like black Americans, trans, etc. Because of its significant value as a equalizer in protecting groups and their rights

So the libs depend so much of identity politics to secure those voting blocks, it leaves them stuck between a rock and a hard place when they pretend to be the biggest Ally of these groups, but anti gun. A true lib paradox
Support for this?
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/comm ... 2c78bb3f46

I mean, if by support you meant looking for a poll showing the exact opposite of what he claimed.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:50 am
by Shirley
Mjl wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:28 pm
jfish26 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:45 pm
randylahey wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:43 pm One inconvenient thing for the libs, is 2a is actually really popular amongst minority groups. Like black Americans, trans, etc. Because of its significant value as a equalizer in protecting groups and their rights

So the libs depend so much of identity politics to secure those voting blocks, it leaves them stuck between a rock and a hard place when they pretend to be the biggest Ally of these groups, but anti gun. A true lib paradox
Support for this?
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/comm ... 2c78bb3f46

I mean, if by support you meant looking for a poll showing the exact opposite of what he claimed.
^^^

The self-owns never stop. (From your article.)

...A Pew Research Center survey shows 75% of Blacks, 72% of Asians, and 65% of Hispanics say gun laws should be stricter compared to only 45% of white people...

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:40 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
I'd like to know what randy feels "minority groups" (and their rights) need protection from.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:47 am
by randylahey
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:40 am I'd like to know what randy feels "minority groups" (and their rights) need protection from.
Big government. Same thing all of us do

Where they are getting played, is big government claims to be advocates for them, while wanting to take away gun rights

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:49 am
by randylahey
Why do they do this? Its simple. Big government pretends to care about the individuals certain rights, in exchange for support that gives big government MORE POWER

And at the same time big government brainwashes you into surrendering or restriction some of your others rights in the name of safety, which again will give big government MORE POWER

Every move they make, is calculated steps inching towards more control and more power

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:57 am
by jhawks99
randylahey wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:49 am Why do they do this? Its simple. Big government pretends to care about the individuals certain rights, in exchange for support that gives big government MORE POWER

And at the same time big government brainwashes you into surrendering or restriction some of your others rights in the name of safety, which again will give big government MORE POWER

Every move they make, is calculated steps inching towards more control and more power
Are we talking guns or abortion here? I'm confused.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:58 am
by KUTradition
randylahey wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:47 am
RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:40 am I'd like to know what randy feels "minority groups" (and their rights) need protection from.
Big government. Same thing all of us do

Where they are getting played, is big government claims to be advocates for them, while wanting to take away gun rights
but those groups largely want more gun regulation (despite your unsubstantiated urgings to the contrary)

so, by bringing about that legislation, the government is absolutely advocating for them

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:00 am
by KUTradition
more control and more power?

that’s the gop playbook (see reproductive rights, books, child welfare, teaching history, how to dress, who to love, etc., etc., etc.)

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:08 am
by jfish26
KUTradition wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:00 am more control and more power?

that’s the gop playbook (see reproductive rights, books, child welfare, teaching history, how to dress, who to love, etc., etc., etc.)
Every accusation...

But it's important to remember that context is everything.

A fish doesn't think anyone drowns in the ocean. A Christo-Fascist doesn't think anyone is being oppressed in a society formed from that playbook you describe.

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:19 am
by randylahey
KUTradition wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:00 am more control and more power?

that’s the gop playbook (see reproductive rights, books, child welfare, teaching history, how to dress, who to love, etc., etc., etc.)
Both sides do it continuously. Both are fighting for power

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:20 am
by KUTradition
randylahey wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:19 am
KUTradition wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:00 am more control and more power?

that’s the gop playbook (see reproductive rights, books, child welfare, teaching history, how to dress, who to love, etc., etc., etc.)
Both sides do it continuously. Both are fighting for power
lazy response

good job

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:20 am
by Shirley
jhawks99 wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:57 am
randylahey wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:49 am Why do they do this? Its simple. Big government pretends to care about the individuals certain rights, in exchange for support that gives big government MORE POWER

And at the same time big government brainwashes you into surrendering or restriction some of your others rights in the name of safety, which again will give big government MORE POWER

Every move they make, is calculated steps inching towards more control and more power
Are we talking guns or abortion here? I'm confused.
Your work is done here.

/thread

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 4:01 pm
by KUTradition
control? power?

i guess maybe the free-dumb caucus isn’t really about freedom after all

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna81361

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:45 pm
by randylahey

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:06 pm
by Sparko
Ha! The don't throw me in the briar patch double dog dare. This guy is Lemke 2.

Translation: "the GOP won't even attend a debate with the republicans being morons. But we want to throw shit at Biden."

Re: Vivek ramaswamy

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:04 pm
by DCHawk1
Sparko wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:06 pm Ha! The don't throw me in the briar patch double dog dare. This guy is Lemke 2.

Translation: "the GOP won't even attend a debate with the republicans being morons. But we want to throw shit at Biden."
wut?