Kansas Crimson

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:06 am WTF. Four kids shot (11 to 14) while joy riding in a stolen car.

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/ove ... nneapolis/

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:31 pm https://www.ketv.com/article/officials- ... s/61925343

"Both the Army Reserves and local police missed out on opportunities to intervene in a gunman’s psychiatric crisis and seize weapons from the spiraling reservist responsible for the deadliest shootings in Maine history, according to the final report released Tuesday by a special commission created to investigate the attacks, which killed 18 people."
...
"The 215-page report reiterated the panel’s conclusion from an interim finding in March that law enforcement had authority under the state’s yellow flag law to seize the shooter’s guns and put him in protective custody weeks before the shootings. But it also said the Army Reserves also should have done more, as well, to ensure care and deal with the weapons."

More examples of what happens when the military and law enforcement fail to uphold their sworn duties.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:27 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:31 pm https://www.ketv.com/article/officials- ... s/61925343

"Both the Army Reserves and local police missed out on opportunities to intervene in a gunman’s psychiatric crisis and seize weapons from the spiraling reservist responsible for the deadliest shootings in Maine history, according to the final report released Tuesday by a special commission created to investigate the attacks, which killed 18 people."
...
"The 215-page report reiterated the panel’s conclusion from an interim finding in March that law enforcement had authority under the state’s yellow flag law to seize the shooter’s guns and put him in protective custody weeks before the shootings. But it also said the Army Reserves also should have done more, as well, to ensure care and deal with the weapons."

More examples of what happens when the military and law enforcement fail to uphold their sworn duties.

1 - render government ineffective
2 - blame government for being ineffective

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:34 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:27 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:31 pm https://www.ketv.com/article/officials- ... s/61925343

"Both the Army Reserves and local police missed out on opportunities to intervene in a gunman’s psychiatric crisis and seize weapons from the spiraling reservist responsible for the deadliest shootings in Maine history, according to the final report released Tuesday by a special commission created to investigate the attacks, which killed 18 people."
...
"The 215-page report reiterated the panel’s conclusion from an interim finding in March that law enforcement had authority under the state’s yellow flag law to seize the shooter’s guns and put him in protective custody weeks before the shootings. But it also said the Army Reserves also should have done more, as well, to ensure care and deal with the weapons."

More examples of what happens when the military and law enforcement fail to uphold their sworn duties.

1 - render government ineffective
2 - blame government for being ineffective

Feels like it.

"Just uphold the gun laws that are already on the books and we're good" only works until the police and military look the other way when one of their own appears to be a problem.

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:24 am Mrs. 99 just turned on the teevee, guess what. A school shooting on the 1st day of school. Her first words were, thank God only two dead.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:41 pm

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:24 am Mrs. 99 just turned on the teevee, guess what. A school shooting on the 1st day of school. Her first words were, thank God only two dead.

Her first words after "thank God only two dead" should have been - so far.
Seems at least 4 dead now.
Moral of the story is...... Fuck the USA.
Where is randy to come along and say - they wouldn't be dead if there was a good guy with a gun OR there would have been more dead if there wasn't a good guy with a gun.
That or put armed security at the entrances of every school and arm all teachers.
Or.... Some other thing/s to make me shake my head.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:56 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:41 pm

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:24 am Mrs. 99 just turned on the teevee, guess what. A school shooting on the 1st day of school. Her first words were, thank God only two dead.

Her first words after "thank God only two dead" should have been - so far.
Seems at least 4 dead now.
Moral of the story is...... Fuck the USA.
Where is randy to come along and say - they wouldn't be dead if there was a good guy with a gun OR there would have been more dead if there wasn't a good guy with a gun.
That or put armed security at the entrances of every school and arm all teachers.
Or.... Some other thing/s to make me shake my head.

(I would ask someone who thinks that guards and hardened entries and so on are the answer, and who also criticizes any manner of government spending, how we’re going to pay for very expensive things that are largely needed because there are simply too many guns held by too many people who shouldn’t have them.)

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:56 pm

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 1:41 pm

jhawks99 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:24 am Mrs. 99 just turned on the teevee, guess what. A school shooting on the 1st day of school. Her first words were, thank God only two dead.

Her first words after "thank God only two dead" should have been - so far.
Seems at least 4 dead now.
Moral of the story is...... Fuck the USA.
Where is randy to come along and say - they wouldn't be dead if there was a good guy with a gun OR there would have been more dead if there wasn't a good guy with a gun.
That or put armed security at the entrances of every school and arm all teachers.
Or.... Some other thing/s to make me shake my head.

(I would ask someone who thinks that guards and hardened entries and so on are the answer, and who also criticizes any manner of government spending, how we’re going to pay for very expensive things that are largely needed because there are simply too many guns held by too many people who shouldn’t have them.)

One student told a reporter for Fox 5 Atlanta that he initially thought the gunshots were fake until he heard screaming. He described being evacuated from the building and seeing a body in one of the rooms. “There was a gun lying on the ground, with the bullets and the blood,” he said.

“They prepare you for these things,” a 15-year-old girl told the New York Times. “But in the moment, I started crying. I got nervous.”

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 5:00 pm "Colt"?

Sounds confused about his biological identity. Is he a horse that identifies as people?

So many questions.

japhy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:57 pm And the police released the name and age of the suspect. 14 year old Colt Gray. I know we are all thinking the same thing, the kid is probably an illegal immigrant.