Kansas Crimson

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:25 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:13 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:03 pm

I am presenting what was told to me by the store manager as fact on the assumption that she is telling the truth. I did not administer a lie detector test or place her under oath. My bad.

The assumption that you are guilty of is that because they are being paid in cash that they MUST then be illegal. It might be true but it certainly doesn't mean that it's true. There are many legal workers who get paid in cash by employers looking to skirt the rules and save themselves some money.

Not my assumption. It’s what she told me. Again, my bad for not deposing her properly and vetting all sources thoroughly. Perhaps I’ll waterboard her to see if her story changes?

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:32 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:25 pm

twocoach wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:13 pm
The assumption that you are guilty of is that because they are being paid in cash that they MUST then be illegal. It might be true but it certainly doesn't mean that it's true. There are many legal workers who get paid in cash by employers looking to skirt the rules and save themselves some money.

Not my assumption. It’s what she told me. Again, my bad for not deposing her properly and vetting all sources thoroughly. Perhaps I’ll waterboard her to see if her story changes?

What is the point of this stupid story anyways? That a store having to adjust or create policies based on their customers behavior is bad if it might be because of illegal immigrants? Good grief. What a pointless whine.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:03 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:53 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 3:49 pm

My issue was not with the money itself, nor the amount per se. It was with it being in cash/under the table, thus untaxable. If I have to get screwed by the IRS, so should they.

You are making an assumption then, and presenting it as fact.

I am presenting what was told to me by the store manager as fact on the assumption that she is telling the truth. I did not administer a lie detector test or place her under oath. My bad.

Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:01 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:03 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:53 pm

You are making an assumption then, and presenting it as fact.

I am presenting what was told to me by the store manager as fact on the assumption that she is telling the truth. I did not administer a lie detector test or place her under oath. My bad.

So, neither of you have any first hand account of how these people are paid.

You are apparently inconvenienced trying to buy a cup of coffee, and it is all somehow tied to how other people are paid. And your local convenience store would rather not have their business.

Sound like one of those stories that preachers make up for effect.

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:38 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:01 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:03 pm

I am presenting what was told to me by the store manager as fact on the assumption that she is telling the truth. I did not administer a lie detector test or place her under oath. My bad.

So, neither of you have any first hand account of how these people are paid.

You are apparently inconvenienced trying to buy a cup of coffee, and it is all somehow tied to how other people are paid. And your local convenience store would rather not have their business.

Sound like one of those stories that preachers make up for effect.

You should come on up and slap her around a bit - you know, show her who’s boss - that you’re onto her. Who knows? Maybe you’ll get a confession; but at the very least, you’ll teach her a valuable lesson and right an unimaginable wrong. My god, you’re too impressive for words!

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:50 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:09 pm Now juxtapose, “prosperity is a zero sum game, and when the number of people who are taking exceed the number who are contributing, it becomes a slippery slope,” with the R/D state taker/contributor mix.

I am talking about citizens vs. non-citizens and legal vs. illegal residents. You can play your numbers games with tax revenue vs. subsidies, but at least these are people who are actually paying taxes.

Case in point, the convenience store I go to every morning to get my caffeine fix has started posting signs on Friday of every week that they cannot break $50 and $100 bills. The sign stays up all weekend. I asked the manager why the other day and she said that Friday is payday and that they have been overrun with Hispanic men starting at about 5:00 every Friday morning coming in with their week's pay in cash and paying for their lunch and snacks with $100 bills, which empties the register within a matter of an hour or two.

It is apparent that they are illegal, getting paid under the table, and cannot set up a bank account because of their status. It is illustrative of the amount of untaxed income that runs through my small, rural Michigan town extrapolated across the country, which is staggering.

Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 10:29 pm

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:38 pm

Overlander wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:01 pm

So, neither of you have any first hand account of how these people are paid.

You are apparently inconvenienced trying to buy a cup of coffee, and it is all somehow tied to how other people are paid. And your local convenience store would rather not have their business.

Sound like one of those stories that preachers make up for effect.

You should come on up and slap her around a bit - you know, show her who’s boss - that you’re onto her. Who knows? Maybe you’ll get a confession; but at the very least, you’ll teach her a valuable lesson and right an unimaginable wrong. My god, you’re too impressive for words!

I cannot imagine a scenario where I would hit a woman.

But, you do you I guess

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:26 pm
We are on the verge of becoming a Third World shithole, thanks to Brandon and Giggles.

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:12 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:50 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:09 pm Now juxtapose, “prosperity is a zero sum game, and when the number of people who are taking exceed the number who are contributing, it becomes a slippery slope,” with the R/D state taker/contributor mix.

I am talking about citizens vs. non-citizens and legal vs. illegal residents. You can play your numbers games with tax revenue vs. subsidies, but at least these are people who are actually paying taxes.

Case in point, the convenience store I go to every morning to get my caffeine fix has started posting signs on Friday of every week that they cannot break $50 and $100 bills. The sign stays up all weekend. I asked the manager why the other day and she said that Friday is payday and that they have been overrun with Hispanic men starting at about 5:00 every Friday morning coming in with their week's pay in cash and paying for their lunch and snacks with $100 bills, which empties the register within a matter of an hour or two.

It is apparent that they are illegal, getting paid under the table, and cannot set up a bank account because of their status. It is illustrative of the amount of untaxed income that runs through my small, rural Michigan town extrapolated across the country, which is staggering.

HOLY poop.

"Case in point"?
"overrun with Hispanic men starting at about 5:00 every Friday morning coming in with their week's pay in cash".
Hmmmmm. "Overrun with Hispanic men"? Ok, you tell us what "small rural Michigan town" you are in that has a convince store that is being "overrun with Hispanic men". ZERO chance unless "overrun" translates to a handful. The store owner actually knows that these people are being paid in cash,,,, because they tell her so, or because she's making an assumption?

"starting at 5:00 every Friday morning coming in with their week's pay in cash".
Hmmmmm. That means they are getting paid before 5:00am. Interesting. I wonder who is paying them before 5:00am.

"which empties the register within a matter of an hour or two".
Sounds like a major problem! OH MY GOD!
Hmmmmm. If the store owner knows this, then why not have an abundance 20s, 10s, 5s, and 1? Unless of course she is ok with losing sales and money.

You actually said, "I am talking about citizens vs. non-citizens and legal vs. illegal residents. You can play your numbers games with tax revenue vs. subsidies, but at least these are people who are actually paying taxes".
Hmmmm. Where at any point in your story does it prove a "case in point" that the Hispanics coming in to the convince store are not paying taxes? Heck if anything it proves they are at least paying sales taxes. Right?

You actually said, "It is apparent that they are illegal, getting paid under the table, and cannot set up a bank account because of their status. It is illustrative of the amount of untaxed income that runs through my small, rural Michigan town extrapolated across the country, which is staggering".
Hmmmm. Your ASSUMPTION is they are "illegal", "getting paid under the table", and "cannot set up a bank account". You feel it is "apparent" all because they have $50 and $100 dollar bills?
Gee, if you see a Black man in your town with a $50 bill or $100 bill do you assume they are a drug dealer, gang member, thief, etc.?
"untaxed income that runs through my small, rural Michigan town". Tell us, approximately how many "illegals" are living in your small rural Michigan town"?
Please help us out. Why do you feel those alleged "illegals" spending money in your "small rural Michigan town" is a bad thing for you and your "small rural Michigan town"?

Overlander wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 9:08 am

RainbowsandUnicorns wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:12 am

JKLivin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 22, 2024 12:50 pm

I am talking about citizens vs. non-citizens and legal vs. illegal residents. You can play your numbers games with tax revenue vs. subsidies, but at least these are people who are actually paying taxes.

Case in point, the convenience store I go to every morning to get my caffeine fix has started posting signs on Friday of every week that they cannot break $50 and $100 bills. The sign stays up all weekend. I asked the manager why the other day and she said that Friday is payday and that they have been overrun with Hispanic men starting at about 5:00 every Friday morning coming in with their week's pay in cash and paying for their lunch and snacks with $100 bills, which empties the register within a matter of an hour or two.

It is apparent that they are illegal, getting paid under the table, and cannot set up a bank account because of their status. It is illustrative of the amount of untaxed income that runs through my small, rural Michigan town extrapolated across the country, which is staggering.

HOLY poop.

"Case in point"?
"overrun with Hispanic men starting at about 5:00 every Friday morning coming in with their week's pay in cash".
Hmmmmm. "Overrun with Hispanic men"? Ok, you tell us what "small rural Michigan town" you are in that has a convince store that is being "overrun with Hispanic men". ZERO chance unless "overrun" translates to a handful. The store owner actually knows that these people are being paid in cash,,,, because they tell her so, or because she's making an assumption?

"starting at 5:00 every Friday morning coming in with their week's pay in cash".
Hmmmmm. That means they are getting paid before 5:00am. Interesting. I wonder who is paying them before 5:00am.

"which empties the register within a matter of an hour or two".
Sounds like a major problem! OH MY GOD!
Hmmmmm. If the store owner knows this, then why not have an abundance 20s, 10s, 5s, and 1? Unless of course she is ok with losing sales and money.

You actually said, "I am talking about citizens vs. non-citizens and legal vs. illegal residents. You can play your numbers games with tax revenue vs. subsidies, but at least these are people who are actually paying taxes".
Hmmmm. Where at any point in your story does it prove a "case in point" that the Hispanics coming in to the convince store are not paying taxes? Heck if anything it proves they are at least paying sales taxes. Right?

You actually said, "It is apparent that they are illegal, getting paid under the table, and cannot set up a bank account because of their status. It is illustrative of the amount of untaxed income that runs through my small, rural Michigan town extrapolated across the country, which is staggering".
Hmmmm. Your ASSUMPTION is they are "illegal", "getting paid under the table", and "cannot set up a bank account". You feel it is "apparent" all because they have $50 and $100 dollar bills?
Gee, if you see a Black man in your town with a $50 bill or $100 bill do you assume they are a drug dealer, gang member, thief, etc.?
"untaxed income that runs through my small, rural Michigan town". Tell us, approximately how many "illegals" are living in your small rural Michigan town"?
Please help us out. Why do you feel those alleged "illegals" spending money in your "small rural Michigan town" is a bad thing for you and your "small rural Michigan town"?

You forgot “No further questions your honor”

jfish26 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:45 am Alexa, show me shameless:

In a Virginia Senate debate Wednesday night, Democratic Senator Tim Kaine’s Trump-endorsed opponent Hung Cao took the stage with some unhinged remarks about drag queens, alpha males, and DEI.

Cao, a Navy veteran, was asked about his previous statements about what he sees as the “growing obsession” with diversity, equity, and inclusion in the military—and somehow answered with a cannibalistic rant.

“When you’re using a drag queen to recruit for the Navy, that’s not the people we want,” said Cao. “What we need is alpha males and alpha females who are going to rip out their own guts, eat them and ask for seconds. Those are young men and women that are going to win wars.”

It’s unclear what Cao meant in the cannibalistic part of the rant, beyond scorning drag queens and anyone he doesn’t see as “alpha.”When NBC News reached the Republican’s office for comment, he doubled down about his debate remarks: “I just said what everyone believes as fact.”

In the debate, he also parroted Trump’s lines about immigration and the so-called migrant crisis. Cao, whose family came to the U.S. from Vietnam, did not push back against the moderator’s question about deporting all undocumented immigrants. Instead, he made a call for assimilation. “Don’t ask for the American dream if you’re not willing to obey American laws and embrace the American culture.” On his campaign website, the candidate promises to “repel this invasion.”

According to the RealClearPolitics poll average, Kaine leads Cao by 10 points in the state.