Kansas Crimson

Your buddy Dubya would be the radical lefty in this election, brother.

How quickly we forget about Afghanistan and Iraq huh.

For real tho, when was the last time the United States DID move to the left?

Has there even been a move within our lifetimes?

All the left-leaning movements - the Bernie campaign, BLM, Occupy Wall Street, what else? - have been ransacked by the establishment, and/or grifters, what the eff.

Reagan and the southern strategy meets senate apportionment.

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:54 pm How quickly we forget about Afghanistan and Iraq huh.

For real tho, when was the last time the United States DID move to the left?

Has there even been a move within our lifetimes?

All the left-leaning movements - the Bernie campaign, BLM, Occupy Wall Street, what else? - have been ransacked by the establishment, and/or grifters, what the eff.

I would think you might possibly identify the, ah, reaction to Obama as one of the signposts on the road the right has taken from “let’s use culture wars to gin up engagement and donations” to “actually no we really mean this shit, comrade.”

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:51 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:54 pm How quickly we forget about Afghanistan and Iraq huh.

For real tho, when was the last time the United States DID move to the left?

Has there even been a move within our lifetimes?

All the left-leaning movements - the Bernie campaign, BLM, Occupy Wall Street, what else? - have been ransacked by the establishment, and/or grifters, what the eff.

I would think you might possibly identify the, ah, reaction to Obama as one of the signposts on the road the right has taken from “let’s use culture wars to gin up engagement and donations” to “actually no we really mean this shit, comrade.”

100%

Overlander wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 8:01 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:51 pm

ousdahl wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:54 pm How quickly we forget about Afghanistan and Iraq huh.

For real tho, when was the last time the United States DID move to the left?

Has there even been a move within our lifetimes?

All the left-leaning movements - the Bernie campaign, BLM, Occupy Wall Street, what else? - have been ransacked by the establishment, and/or grifters, what the eff.

I would think you might possibly identify the, ah, reaction to Obama as one of the signposts on the road the right has taken from “let’s use culture wars to gin up engagement and donations” to “actually no we really mean this shit, comrade.”

100%

I remain confident that one of Heather Cox Richardson's fundamental theses is correct: so much of what's happening here is that (for example) little Mikey and Margie, growing up with Rush on the AM dial in their homes, have become (for example) Speaker Johnson and Representative Greene (and so on).

They don't understand that it was never supposed to actually be done.

Need less navel gazing and more bare knuckles politics against these idiots. The GOP have only nostalgia, hate and dictators to offer. Part of the problem are the too clever by half Ousdahls. Reminds me of the Life of Brian where Eric Idle jokes his way out and back into crucifixion.

Biden got the 'rona. I hate that we have to think of things this way, but: if he's ever gonna drop, this'd be the time.

email I just received.

From: Joe Biden
Subject: I'm sick.....


…of Elon Musk trying to buy this election for himself and his billionaire buddies.

Did you see he pledged 45 million bucks a month to help reelect Donald Trump in November? I’m not kidding.

If you agree that the direction of our country shouldn’t be dictated by folks like Elon, pitch in today. Every cent of your $25, $50, or even $500 donation will be put straight to work to defeat Trump and J.D. Vance.

If you've saved payment information with ActBlue Express, your donation will go through immediately:
$25 >>
$50 >>
$100 >>
$250 >>
$500 >>
Other >>
Unlike my opponent, I’m not beholden to billionaires like Elon. Or to Big Pharma. Or Big Oil. Or the NRA, for that matter. The only way that Kamala and I can win this election is with people power and grassroots supporters like you by our side. So thanks for being on this team.

–Joe

Joe Biden
President of the United States


P.S. On a more serious note, I did just test positive for COVID today. But don’t worry too much about me. I’m doing just fine, and I’m still as committed as ever to holding Donald Trump and his rich cronies accountable. Thanks for standing with me.

Companies are people and money is speech.

Meanwhile, Billionaires bought the Supreme Court and now they're buying the presidency.

I don't think anyone could have predicted this...

color me not shocked.

Jonathan Karl ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent
@jonkarl

I am told Chuck Schumer had a blunt one-on-one conversation with Biden Saturday afternoon in Rehoboth. Schumer forcefully made the case that it would be best if Biden bowed out of the race.

Schumer's office wouldn't comment on the specifics of the conversation, telling me only, “Leader Schumer conveyed the views of his caucus.”
7:12 PM · Jul 17, 2024

Jonathan Karl
@jonkarl

1h
Hakeem Jeffries has expressed a similar view to Biden, according to a source familiar. A Jeffries spokesman tells me, “The letter sent by Leader Hakeem Jeffries to his House Democratic colleagues speaks for itself. It was a private conversation that will remain private.”

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:59 pm Jonathan Karl ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent
@jonkarl

I am told Chuck Schumer had a blunt one-on-one conversation with Biden Saturday afternoon in Rehoboth. Schumer forcefully made the case that it would be best if Biden bowed out of the race.

Schumer's office wouldn't comment on the specifics of the conversation, telling me only, “Leader Schumer conveyed the views of his caucus.”
7:12 PM · Jul 17, 2024

Jonathan Karl
@jonkarl

1h
Hakeem Jeffries has expressed a similar view to Biden, according to a source familiar. A Jeffries spokesman tells me, “The letter sent by Leader Hakeem Jeffries to his House Democratic colleagues speaks for itself. It was a private conversation that will remain private.”

It’s not fair.

But it’s also not fair for my daughters to grow up under a Putin-aligned Christian nationalist regime.

A well-executed (and Joe-fronted) stepping down is the best chance for the Ds to win, which looks like the only way to prevent that.

Agreed.

We Demos will vote for Biden if he persists, but if he persists, instead of the election being a referendum on Trump, too much of the energy will be spent on the referendum on Biden.

If we're talking about Trump we're winning, but if we're talking about Biden...

Biden surging as Trump collapses. So this will work out. Can of Tuna. Can of Tuna

Sparko wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 10:07 pm Need less navel gazing and more bare knuckles politics against these idiots. The GOP have only nostalgia, hate and dictators to offer. Part of the problem are the too clever by half Ousdahls. Reminds me of the Life of Brian where Eric Idle jokes his way out and back into crucifixion.

Jeez bro, you’re talking about me like I’m some kinda break room donut.

The implication is that you are the center cavity of a donut sometimes. Fight the power of Peter Thiel, the Koch brother, Musk. Project 2025. Your life depends on it.

Does Joe just have brain fog because of the Corona virus? Maybe he’ll snap out of it after the Paxlovid cures his illness.

https://covid19.nih.gov/news-and-storie ... y%20people.

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:14 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:59 pm Jonathan Karl ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent
@jonkarl

I am told Chuck Schumer had a blunt one-on-one conversation with Biden Saturday afternoon in Rehoboth. Schumer forcefully made the case that it would be best if Biden bowed out of the race.

Schumer's office wouldn't comment on the specifics of the conversation, telling me only, “Leader Schumer conveyed the views of his caucus.”
7:12 PM · Jul 17, 2024

Jonathan Karl
@jonkarl

1h
Hakeem Jeffries has expressed a similar view to Biden, according to a source familiar. A Jeffries spokesman tells me, “The letter sent by Leader Hakeem Jeffries to his House Democratic colleagues speaks for itself. It was a private conversation that will remain private.”

It’s not fair.

But it’s also not fair for my daughters to grow up under a Putin-aligned Christian nationalist regime.

A well-executed (and Joe-fronted) stepping down is the best chance for the Ds to win, which looks like the only way to prevent that.

If people are successful in running Biden off the ticket, then they had better line the fuck up to support Kamala Harris because she is the only replacement that works. I don't want to hear any of that "but some people don't like her" shit because it is wholly irrelevant.

I have been consistent in stating that I will vote for whoever the Dems run against Trump. If a change is going to be made then get it over with so we can move forward.

twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:45 pm

jfish26 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:14 pm

Shirley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:59 pm Jonathan Karl ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent
@jonkarl

I am told Chuck Schumer had a blunt one-on-one conversation with Biden Saturday afternoon in Rehoboth. Schumer forcefully made the case that it would be best if Biden bowed out of the race.

Schumer's office wouldn't comment on the specifics of the conversation, telling me only, “Leader Schumer conveyed the views of his caucus.”
7:12 PM · Jul 17, 2024

Jonathan Karl
@jonkarl

1h
Hakeem Jeffries has expressed a similar view to Biden, according to a source familiar. A Jeffries spokesman tells me, “The letter sent by Leader Hakeem Jeffries to his House Democratic colleagues speaks for itself. It was a private conversation that will remain private.”

It’s not fair.

But it’s also not fair for my daughters to grow up under a Putin-aligned Christian nationalist regime.

A well-executed (and Joe-fronted) stepping down is the best chance for the Ds to win, which looks like the only way to prevent that.

If people are successful in running Biden off the ticket, then they had better line the fuck up to support Kamala Harris because she is the only replacement that works. I don't want to hear any of that "but some people don't like her" shit because it is wholly irrelevant.

I have been consistent in stating that I will vote for whoever the Dems run against Trump. If a change is going to be made then get it over with so we can move forward.

I agree with this. I think an open contest would be a disaster.