“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.
Methodist Pastor David Barnhart
Re: Where's the Pro-Life thread?
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:36 pm
by japhy
The Satanic Temple strikes again. I might have to join. The religious abortion ritual, consistent with this purpose, TST wants unfettered access to abortifacients for its religious use.
japhy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:36 pm
The Satanic Temple strikes again. I might have to join. The religious abortion ritual, consistent with this purpose, TST wants unfettered access to abortifacients for its religious use.
Before you get all "but people are dying....600k deaths..." on me.... Realize that (and this is not my view but)....the US averaged somewhere between 600k and 800k legal abortions per year over the last decade according to the CDC. So to some people the argument is the same as yours.
Re: Where's the Pro-Life thread?
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:37 pm
by ousdahl
That’s a good pro-life taking point.
The word I get caught up on is “legal.”
Re: Where's the Pro-Life thread?
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:40 pm
by ousdahl
And also get as passionately opposed to loosing lives to covid as you is about loosing lives to abortion?
Re: Where's the Pro-Life thread?
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:41 pm
by TDub
So then you know its more than that if you count the.....alternate methods of termination that aren't performed in a physicians clinic.
Re: Where's the Pro-Life thread?
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:44 pm
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:40 pm
And also get as passionately opposed to loosing lives to covid as you is about loosing lives to abortion?
Get as passionate about personal choices as you is....about...personal choices?
Re: Where's the Pro-Life thread?
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:44 pm
by ousdahl
Exactly!
Why doesn’t the pro lifers cares about the black market abortions?
It’s the ncaa equivalent of saying yeah them scholarship reductions is sure nipping this shoe money in the bud
Why doesn’t the pro lifers cares about the black market abortions?
It’s the ncaa equivalent of saying yeah them scholarship reductions is sure nipping this shoe money in the bud
Because theyres always going to be some that risk it...but the threat of breaking the law is enough to substantially reduce the number of people who go through with it and it makes me people have to seriously consider the potential consequences.
Much like mask mandates and vaccine passports and only allowing people woth stamped cards in to certain places etc.
Why doesn’t the pro lifers cares about the black market abortions?
It’s the ncaa equivalent of saying yeah them scholarship reductions is sure nipping this shoe money in the bud
Because theyres always going to be some that risk it...but the threat of breaking the law is enough to substantially reduce the number of people who go through with it and it makes me people have to seriously consider the potential consequences.
Much like mask mandates and vaccine passports and only allowing people woth stamped cards in to certain places etc.
I can’t believe you’re comparing Covid vaccines with abortion.
Why doesn’t the pro lifers cares about the black market abortions?
It’s the ncaa equivalent of saying yeah them scholarship reductions is sure nipping this shoe money in the bud
Because theyres always going to be some that risk it...but the threat of breaking the law is enough to substantially reduce the number of people who go through with it and it makes me people have to seriously consider the potential consequences.
Much like mask mandates and vaccine passports and only allowing people woth stamped cards in to certain places etc.
I can’t believe you’re comparing Covid vaccines with abortion.
I cant believe you picked this post to respond too instead of the one I posted directly below your cute meme or tweet or whatever other worthless form of media people seem to only be able to use for information and communication with these days. All hot takes and one hit zingers.
Also its not that vaccines and abortion are the same....its that the act of control is the same.
Re: Where's the Pro-Life thread?
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:13 am
by sdoyel
No. No it’s not.
Re: Where's the Pro-Life thread?
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:34 am
by TDub
sdoyel wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:13 am
No. No it’s not.
Yes it is.
Also, if i havent been 100% clear. I am pro choice. I just dont pick and choose which things we should control and force people to do or not do. Choice.