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Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:22 pm
by Deleted User 310
I don't think that clears him at all.

What i found most interesting about that video was that the "militia" was not being hostile towards protestors and that there were multiple black guys in the "militia". The media sure didn't let any of that info make it into the narrative, that is for sure.

Rosenbaum yelling at someone to "shoot me n***a" is cringeworthy. That shows just how twisted this whole situation is. White people saying racist shit while looting/vandalizing and then media blaming BLM for it.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:29 pm
by Deleted User 310
And what is with all the white people using the n-word in that video? I don't know about wisconsin but that shit doesn't fly here.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:55 pm
by Deleted User 289
Walrus wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:39 pm This pretty much seals the deal and clears the kid. How hilarious that some people were trying to paint him as a "white supremacist".

I predict "The kid" will not be cleared simply by THIS biased video source alone.
I've said it before and I will say it again, the kid ruined his life and he ruined the life of others because of his being yet another dumbfuck with a gun.
How fucking golden is it when YOU find it "hilarious" that some people were trying to paint him as a white supremacist when YOU are a guy who tries to "paint" others as BLM "members" - who are not?

In regards to the video - Congrats on being another brainwashed sheep.
"The truth in 11 minutes"? Really? More like a crock of shit in 11 minutes.

They mentioned TWICE that he "worked as a lifeguard". LOL! Why not mention that he mowed his neighbor's lawn too? WTF does his being a lifeguard have to do with anything?
"Trained in advanced life support". Really? According to whom? "The kid"? He may have been trained in CPR but my guess is not in "advanced life support" just as my guess is he isn't really a "certified" EMT as he claimed he is/was.

Not 100% clear about Joseph Rosenbaum. He might have been the biggest asshole on the face of the Earth but it doesn't really matter who or what he was. He didn't shoot at "the kid" and "the kid shot at him". "The kid" flat out said, "I had to shoot him". Really? Why did he have to shoot him?

The video makes sure they point out the people he shot were assholes. And? So?
I can't just shoot someone because they were an asshole in an unrelated situation and then call it justifiable. Can I?

One question unrelated to the video that I have is, "the kid" was denied by the Marine Corps - for a reason or reasons (plural). What was the reason/s?

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:02 pm
by ousdahl
one question directly related to the video that I have is, what exactly do they mean when they introduce Alexander Blaine as an "amateur porn actor?"

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:08 pm
by Deleted User 310
Nobody else found it interesting that the "militia" people they showed were being supportive of the protestors and that some of the "militia" people were black?

....and that most of the "protestors" being destructive were white!

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:14 pm
by Deleted User 89
i’ve said before on here that those being destructive, by and large, are only using the protests as cover...regardless of their skin color

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:04 pm
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:08 pm Nobody else found it interesting that the "militia" people they showed were being supportive of the protestors and that some of the "militia" people were black?

....and that most of the "protestors" being destructive were white!
It's called editing.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:26 pm
by Deleted User 310
twocoach wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:04 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:08 pm Nobody else found it interesting that the "militia" people they showed were being supportive of the protestors and that some of the "militia" people were black?

....and that most of the "protestors" being destructive were white!
It's called editing.
JFC. They edited in black people into the "militia"?

You really stick to the narrative you are fed even when there is video evidence that the narrative was off.

There is video of a white dude in the militia saying "all lives can't matter until black lives matter, we are with you guys".

There is video of multiple black guys in the "militia".

Other than Rittenhouse there wasn't a single report of violence between the "militia" and "protestors". Wonder why that is? Maybe because they weren't there to kill the protestors like you seemingly hoped they were?

There is also video of multiple white people saying the N word who claim to be there protesting racial equality.

Give me a break.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:37 pm
by ousdahl
One cop charged with wanton endangerment for the death of Breonna

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:42 pm
by Deleted User 310
ousdahl wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:37 pm One cop charged with wanton endangerment for the death of Breonna
Not really surprising.

It is just a terrible situation. Hard to charge the cops for returning fire after the boyfriend fired at them.

The process that led police to even being there is the big problem it sounds like. And the way they went about it (knocking the door down for possible drugs).

There are much worse cases where the cops killed people that i feel are much worse than this (as far as police conduct go)....Tamir Rice IMMEDIATELY sticks out in my mind.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:20 pm
by jhawks99
Charged with firing his weapon into a neighboring apartment. Not with firing his weapon into Breonna Taylor.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:38 pm
by Deleted User 318
ousdahl wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:37 pm One cop charged with wanton endangerment for the death of Breonna
The law they say he broke was endangering people's lives. Not ending someone's life. RIP ville. Going to be a rough go.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:48 pm
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:26 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:04 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:08 pm Nobody else found it interesting that the "militia" people they showed were being supportive of the protestors and that some of the "militia" people were black?

....and that most of the "protestors" being destructive were white!
It's called editing.
JFC. They edited in black people into the "militia"?

You really stick to the narrative you are fed even when there is video evidence that the narrative was off.

There is video of a white dude in the militia saying "all lives can't matter until black lives matter, we are with you guys".

There is video of multiple black guys in the "militia".

Other than Rittenhouse there wasn't a single report of violence between the "militia" and "protestors". Wonder why that is? Maybe because they weren't there to kill the protestors like you seemingly hoped they were?

There is also video of multiple white people saying the N word who claim to be there protesting racial equality.

Give me a break.
There's a video that shows pretty much anything you want it to if you look for it.

Taking meaning from edited clips is just dumb.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:10 pm
by Deleted User 310
twocoach wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:48 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:26 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:04 pm
It's called editing.
JFC. They edited in black people into the "militia"?

You really stick to the narrative you are fed even when there is video evidence that the narrative was off.

There is video of a white dude in the militia saying "all lives can't matter until black lives matter, we are with you guys".

There is video of multiple black guys in the "militia".

Other than Rittenhouse there wasn't a single report of violence between the "militia" and "protestors". Wonder why that is? Maybe because they weren't there to kill the protestors like you seemingly hoped they were?

There is also video of multiple white people saying the N word who claim to be there protesting racial equality.

Give me a break.
There's a video that shows pretty much anything you want it to if you look for it.

Taking meaning from edited clips is just dumb.
No there really isn't. That is just your way to discount the video walrus posted because you want to ignore parts of it since your mind was already made up. You had no problem "taking meaning" from edited clips when it was a quote that said cops were allegedly pushing "protestors" towards militia or when water bottles were being passed out and used it as evidence cops were coordinating/encouraging the "militia" to be aggressive/violent (which they weren't as evidenced by ONLY Rittenhouse hurting/killing anyone that night).

There isn't video of any other "militia" shooting anyone other than Rittenhouse. It is very believable that some of them support the BLM movement and were not there for conflict with the protestors like the video shows. Some of the "militia" were even black people (which i am sure you are trying hard to ignore since you thought they were all white supremacists).

You take meaning from edited clips on a daily basis. So please practice what you preach if that is what you truly believe (it's not).

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:50 pm
by twocoach
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:10 pm
twocoach wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:48 pm
IllinoisJayhawk wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:26 pm

JFC. They edited in black people into the "militia"?

You really stick to the narrative you are fed even when there is video evidence that the narrative was off.

There is video of a white dude in the militia saying "all lives can't matter until black lives matter, we are with you guys".

There is video of multiple black guys in the "militia".

Other than Rittenhouse there wasn't a single report of violence between the "militia" and "protestors". Wonder why that is? Maybe because they weren't there to kill the protestors like you seemingly hoped they were?

There is also video of multiple white people saying the N word who claim to be there protesting racial equality.

Give me a break.
There's a video that shows pretty much anything you want it to if you look for it.

Taking meaning from edited clips is just dumb.
No there really isn't. That is just your way to discount the video walrus posted because you want to ignore parts of it since your mind was already made up. You had no problem "taking meaning" from edited clips when it was a quote that said cops were allegedly pushing "protestors" towards militia or when water bottles were being passed out and used it as evidence cops were coordinating/encouraging the "militia" to be aggressive/violent (which they weren't as evidenced by ONLY Rittenhouse hurting/killing anyone that night).

There isn't video of any other "militia" shooting anyone other than Rittenhouse. It is very believable that some of them support the BLM movement and were not there for conflict with the protestors like the video shows. Some of the "militia" were even black people (which i am sure you are trying hard to ignore since you thought they were all white supremacists).

You take meaning from edited clips on a daily basis. So please practice what you preach if that is what you truly believe (it's not).
Why would I care whether or not a militia member supported BLM? It is completely irrelevant to anything and proves nothing about anyone else. Spazzing out shooting off meaningless "what-if's" is just tiring. All day, every day. I am not ignoring the video. I am just done with this stupid dance.

The case will go to court and we'll hear about the results. The courts will have more access to more evidence and full length videos and will have actual experts, not fucking YouTube performers, reviewing them to establish the facts and the time lines. Then people will be pissed because the system is judging itself and will use every one of the bevy of loopholes built in to allow this type of behavior to continue.

That will be followed by yet another Kyle Rittenhouse, but who has different views and different influences and we'll be reading more "thoughts and prayers to the people of (fill in the city here)" and we'll all dance like this some more. Lather, rinse, repeat.

It will go on like this for probably 30 more years, until the last of the profiteers of this side of the system dies off. Then we can get things moving the right direction.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:58 pm
by Deleted User 310
The only thing i said about the "case" was that the video doesn't do anything to take any blame off Rittenhouse.

So not sure why you responded with 2 rambling paragraphs saying literally nothing meaningful about the post you are quoting.

You refuse to admit the "militia" you melted down about wasn't filled with a bunch of white supremacists hunting black people like the media wanted you to believe. Or that black people were in the "militia". Or that none of the other people in the "militia" did anything violent to the protestors. Or that the "protestors" had a bunch of white people burning shit/causing trouble/using the N word.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:44 am
by Deleted User 89
i never got that feeling from the media, that the militia was a bunch of white supremacists hunting black peoples

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:07 pm
by Sparko
His mom showed up at a racist alt-right Malkin meeting today and got a standing O. So there's that. You don't go down a Trump rabbit hole without being racist. You don't get to fein piety with children in cages, "shithole countries" and fake birth certificates and claim you are for less government. They have been taught that BLM is their enemy. Including the Bureau of Land Management.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:58 am
by twocoach
TraditionKU wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:44 am i never got that feeling from the media, that the militia was a bunch of white supremacists hunting black peoples
Me neither. I have never seen any such effort by any media sources that I have read to promote it as such.

Re: Kenosha

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:56 pm
by Deleted User 310
BS