Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:38 am
Disagree. Controlling the border will make all of our (citizens/taxpayers) lives better, and we’re all behind that.
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What happened to the immigration thread?
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Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:51 am
A day before, this asshole said he is going to "the border" to assess the crisis.
A reporter asked him a simple question and this was his response.
https://twitter.com/ChicagoContrar1/sta ... 2106242524
A reporter asked him a simple question and this was his response.
https://twitter.com/ChicagoContrar1/sta ... 2106242524
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:49 am
I’ve said this before. If anyone is serious about fixing the immigration system they have to begin with addressing the demand for undocumented employees. But with that will come inflation levels never seen before. Thus the White Supremacy Party will simply be using dog whistles.JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:38 amDisagree. Controlling the border will make all of our (citizens/taxpayers) lives better, and we’re all behind that.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:57 am
You have said that before. Many times. And I have never disagreed. I am curious, though, how wanting to regulate our borders and immigration is tantamount to White Supremacy.zsn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:49 amI’ve said this before. If anyone is serious about fixing the immigration system they have to begin with addressing the demand for undocumented employees. But with that will come inflation levels never seen before. Thus the White Supremacy Party will simply be using dog whistles.
What other country in the world allows people to walk in and live unregulated? You can't go into Mexico and do that. Forget owning a business or a house in China, much less getting across the border illegally. It's just irrational to expect that we shouldn't do the same.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:58 am
Until they have to pay 200% more for their produce, meat products and roofs.JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:38 amDisagree. Controlling the border will make all of our (citizens/taxpayers) lives better, and we’re all behind that.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:59 am
So you've said. Repeatedly.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:05 am
^^^zsn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:49 amI’ve said this before. If anyone is serious about fixing the immigration system they have to begin with addressing the demand for undocumented employees. But with that will come inflation levels never seen before. Thus the White Supremacy Party will simply be using dog whistles.
"Immigration" is a car republicans would much rather whine about, than dare catch.
Something about, "once bittern, twice shy".
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:27 am
Playbook: (1) create problem, (2) blame problem on Democrats.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:23 am
The potato harvest is over. A couple thousand workers are heading back to Guatemala. There may be a few stragglers who will be painting the inside of a building for me and fixing a plumbing leak. Calling a local plumber gets me on a 6-8 week wait list. I can't wait that long to take a shit.
The 20,000 sandhill cranes have started their migration through the valley. We might get to see a few when we head out in two weeks. They will cull the rodent population on their way through and clean up the fields.
The 250,000 Mexican free tailed bats will start moving South soon. The skeeter season has ended and their work is done in the valley.
A couple of hundred years ago the indigenous Ute people would be leaving the valley now and heading to their winter villages.
The 20,000 sandhill cranes have started their migration through the valley. We might get to see a few when we head out in two weeks. They will cull the rodent population on their way through and clean up the fields.
The 250,000 Mexican free tailed bats will start moving South soon. The skeeter season has ended and their work is done in the valley.
A couple of hundred years ago the indigenous Ute people would be leaving the valley now and heading to their winter villages.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:30 am
You'd think you'd catch on by now.
YES, I think we need to do more work at the border to create more of a formal process to handle the influx of people looking for work and asylum to get away from the situations they are fleeing. Yes, I think we need to continue to work to police our borders to try to prevent as much illegal smuggling of drugs etc... as possible. These statements will always be true no matter how good we get at doing it.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:37 am
Agreed, AND we need to limit the number of immigrants coming in - legally and illegally - to prevent the kind of overrun communities we are seeing now. When people are getting their hotel reservations cancelled because they are being used to house illegals, we have a problem.twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:30 amYou'd think you'd catch on by now.
YES, I think we need to do more work at the border to create more of a formal process to handle the influx of people looking for work and asylum to get away from the situations they are fleeing. Yes, I think we need to continue to work to police our borders to try to prevent as much illegal smuggling of drugs etc... as possible. These statements will always be true no matter how good we get at doing it.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:54 am
^^^twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:30 amYou'd think you'd catch on by now.
YES, I think we need to do more work at the border to create more of a formal process to handle the influx of people looking for work and asylum to get away from the situations they are fleeing. Yes, I think we need to continue to work to police our borders to try to prevent as much illegal smuggling of drugs etc... as possible. These statements will always be true no matter how good we get at doing it.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:07 pm
That's false. People genuinely want to srop illegal immigrationShirley wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:05 am^^^zsn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:49 amI’ve said this before. If anyone is serious about fixing the immigration system they have to begin with addressing the demand for undocumented employees. But with that will come inflation levels never seen before. Thus the White Supremacy Party will simply be using dog whistles.
"Immigration" is a car republicans would much rather whine about, than dare catch.
Something about, "once bittern, twice shy".
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:12 pm
Yes. They know us as "rubes," "racists," or "xenophobes".randylahey wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:07 pmThat's false. People genuinely want to stop illegal immigrationShirley wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:05 am^^^zsn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:49 am
I’ve said this before. If anyone is serious about fixing the immigration system they have to begin with addressing the demand for undocumented employees. But with that will come inflation levels never seen before. Thus the White Supremacy Party will simply be using dog whistles.
"Immigration" is a car republicans would much rather whine about, than dare catch.
Something about, "once bittern, twice shy".
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:17 pm
the shoe definitely seems to fit
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:30 pm
Haha….this is fucking awesome!JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:37 amWhen people are getting their hotel reservations cancelled because they are being used to house illegals, we have a problem.twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:30 amYou'd think you'd catch on by now.
YES, I think we need to do more work at the border to create more of a formal process to handle the influx of people looking for work and asylum to get away from the situations they are fleeing. Yes, I think we need to continue to work to police our borders to try to prevent as much illegal smuggling of drugs etc... as possible. These statements will always be true no matter how good we get at doing it.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:54 pm
Isolated incidents of vacationers being inconvenienced, now THAT’S persuasive.Overlander wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:30 pmHaha….this is fucking awesome!JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:37 amWhen people are getting their hotel reservations cancelled because they are being used to house illegals, we have a problem.twocoach wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:30 am
You'd think you'd catch on by now.
YES, I think we need to do more work at the border to create more of a formal process to handle the influx of people looking for work and asylum to get away from the situations they are fleeing. Yes, I think we need to continue to work to police our borders to try to prevent as much illegal smuggling of drugs etc... as possible. These statements will always be true no matter how good we get at doing it.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:57 pm
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/arm ... s-foxboro/jfish26 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:54 pmIsolated incidents of vacationers being inconvenienced, now THAT’S persuasive.
FOXBORO - It is one of the most anticipated games in college football and this year it is being played at Gillette Stadium. The Army-Navy game will make its Foxboro debut on December 9th.
American presidents often attend, but you can be certain tens of thousands of veterans will pour into the greater Boston area. Tickets to the game sell out quickly and hotel rooms become a hot commodity.
That's why it was all the more troubling when Mark Mansbach, a travel agent out of New Jersey, started getting calls from clients that their hotel rooms for the game were being canceled. He decided to call the hotels his agency was partnering with for the game.
"They were leasing out the hotels to the state of Massachusetts for refugees," Mansbach said he was told. It was the response from three hotels owned by Giri Hotel Management, according to Mansbach.
The company, he explained, was working with the state to house migrants under the right to shelter law. His clients' previously booked hotel rooms were canceled to continue the lease with the state. Mansbach said at least 70 of his reservations were impacted.
In a statement to WBZ-TV Thursday, a Giri Hotel Management spokesperson didn't address the cancelations directly, saying they're committed "to providing shelter and support to refugees at our hotels."
"As a gesture of solidarity and humanitarian responsibility, we are opening our doors to those seeking refuge in our community," the statement read. "We look forward to working with local authorities and organizations to ensure a smooth transition for all those who will call our hotels home during their time with us."
Mansbach said in his two decades of experience, he had never heard of something like this happening.
"I have never had a hotel take rooms back and give me nothing. They sent out cancellations and walked away," Mansbach told WBZ. "Some people (clients) have decided not to go, and others found space in Boston. Some I have been able to put into other hotels that I had space left in."
Governor Maura Healey spoke about the issue Wednesday afternoon.
"I am very distressed to learn that any veteran may have been moved from a hotel, who had booked a hotel for that game," Healey said. "As I understand it, those were decisions made by area hotels."
Healey said she instructed the Office of Veteran Services to look into the matter. The agency told WBZ Wednesday it was in contact with the parties involved to pinpoint any veteran who was still in need of a room.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:59 pm
To me, it's a shame two intelligent people such as Over and Fish are minimizing it - or anything for that matter.
It's one of many examples of the factors in which people are getting fucked, and the Republicans can and will rally around and use as ammunition, that can (and will?) be the difference in the 2024 Elections.
You guys may not realize and feel it but there are a shitload of people who are pissed off right now because of the "migrant crisis" in this country. Many of those people happen to be Democrats.
Very good chance we are going to have a Republican President, majority House, and majority Senate and the "migrant crisis" might play a very big role in that.
It's one of many examples of the factors in which people are getting fucked, and the Republicans can and will rally around and use as ammunition, that can (and will?) be the difference in the 2024 Elections.
You guys may not realize and feel it but there are a shitload of people who are pissed off right now because of the "migrant crisis" in this country. Many of those people happen to be Democrats.
Very good chance we are going to have a Republican President, majority House, and majority Senate and the "migrant crisis" might play a very big role in that.
Re: What happened to the immigration thread?
Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 1:05 pm
So, ah, the inconvenienced vacationers chose to cancel their vacations, or made (or had made for them) alternative arrangements.JKLivin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:57 pmhttps://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/arm ... s-foxboro/
FOXBORO - It is one of the most anticipated games in college football and this year it is being played at Gillette Stadium. The Army-Navy game will make its Foxboro debut on December 9th.
American presidents often attend, but you can be certain tens of thousands of veterans will pour into the greater Boston area. Tickets to the game sell out quickly and hotel rooms become a hot commodity.
That's why it was all the more troubling when Mark Mansbach, a travel agent out of New Jersey, started getting calls from clients that their hotel rooms for the game were being canceled. He decided to call the hotels his agency was partnering with for the game.
"They were leasing out the hotels to the state of Massachusetts for refugees," Mansbach said he was told. It was the response from three hotels owned by Giri Hotel Management, according to Mansbach.
The company, he explained, was working with the state to house migrants under the right to shelter law. His clients' previously booked hotel rooms were canceled to continue the lease with the state. Mansbach said at least 70 of his reservations were impacted.
In a statement to WBZ-TV Thursday, a Giri Hotel Management spokesperson didn't address the cancelations directly, saying they're committed "to providing shelter and support to refugees at our hotels."
"As a gesture of solidarity and humanitarian responsibility, we are opening our doors to those seeking refuge in our community," the statement read. "We look forward to working with local authorities and organizations to ensure a smooth transition for all those who will call our hotels home during their time with us."
Mansbach said in his two decades of experience, he had never heard of something like this happening.
"I have never had a hotel take rooms back and give me nothing. They sent out cancellations and walked away," Mansbach told WBZ. "Some people (clients) have decided not to go, and others found space in Boston. Some I have been able to put into other hotels that I had space left in."
Governor Maura Healey spoke about the issue Wednesday afternoon.
"I am very distressed to learn that any veteran may have been moved from a hotel, who had booked a hotel for that game," Healey said. "As I understand it, those were decisions made by area hotels."
Healey said she instructed the Office of Veteran Services to look into the matter. The agency told WBZ Wednesday it was in contact with the parties involved to pinpoint any veteran who was still in need of a room.
#neverforget