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Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:05 am
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:58 am other than an attempt to distract the American people. no reason to have the ukraine dude at the sotu.
Sure there is. It's critical that the administration get the public to buy into why supporting Ukraine is important.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:12 am
by twocoach
jfish26 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:05 am
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:58 am other than an attempt to distract the American people. no reason to have the ukraine dude at the sotu.
Sure there is. It's critical that the administration get the public to buy into why supporting Ukraine is important.
I agree but I just don't think the SOTU speech is the right forum for that. My assumption is that the people who would watch Biden's SOTU speech already support what we are doing there.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:24 am
by MICHHAWK
everybody already supports supporting the ukraine.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:32 am
by jfish26
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:24 am everybody already supports supporting the ukraine.
Your guy at Mar-A-Lago doesn't. Neither do his stooges Stefanik, Taylor-Greene and Boebert.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:34 am
by MICHHAWK
those pigs don't matter.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:40 am
by MICHHAWK
if you need to hollywood it up, the ukraine can make the rounds on bill maher and colbert and kimmel and the daily show and such.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:40 am
by jhawks99
WTF are you talking about?

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:51 am
by sdoyel
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:34 am those pigs don't matter.
The sow is running for POTUS in 2024.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:55 am
by MICHHAWK
we both know that's not true.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:58 am
by KUTradition
it’s not THE Ukraine

it’s Ukraine, and it’s likely disrespectful to their independence to add the article, as it harkens back to when the county was part of the Soviet Union

https://time.com/12597/the-ukraine-or-ukraine/

does anyone say THE Zimbabwe? THE Germany? THE Peru?

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:14 am
by Mjl
THE United States of America
;)

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:18 am
by KUTradition
Mjl wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:14 am THE United States of America
;)
and?

there’s a little thing called their constitution that lays out their name in such a way

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:20 am
by Mjl
KUTradition wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:18 am
Mjl wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:14 am THE United States of America
;)
and?

there’s a little thing called our constitution that lays out our name in such a way
Was trying to be funny. Clearly failed.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:27 am
by KUTradition
Mjl wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:20 am
KUTradition wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:18 am
Mjl wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:14 am THE United States of America
;)
and?

there’s a little thing called our constitution that lays out our name in such a way
Was trying to be funny. Clearly failed.
i know you were

i just felt the need to elaborate further for others

i thought it sounded weird when listening to a retired military officer talking about the invasion, so decided to do some further digging. the article has a rather convoluted use globally

https://bbc.com/news/magazine-18233844

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:34 am
by jhawks99
Mjl wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:20 am
KUTradition wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:18 am
Mjl wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:14 am THE United States of America
;)
and?

there’s a little thing called our constitution that lays out our name in such a way
Was trying to be funny. Clearly failed.
I laughed

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:54 am
by KUTradition
jfish26 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:04 am
KUTradition wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:54 am
jfish26 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:45 am You know, a very good use of scarce human assets within Russia (that are not in a position to gather useful intel) would be to free Navalny and get him to NATO territory.

Capitalize on the growing unrest among Russians and create an offensive Russian government in exile.
i’ve not seen any mention of him since the beginning of this mess

wouldn’t it be great, though, if this all turned out to be putin digging his own grave and russia seeing a revolution of sorts?
His show trial is ongoing.

And I think that (revolution) is exactly what’s going to happen, whether sooner or later. Putin’s failure to quickly decapitate Ukraine’s government (metaphorically or otherwise) and replace it with a puppet regime is having politically devastating consequences (which will only grow as he has to resort to atrocities, and as economic pain at home deepens).
sounds like at least some of the oligarchs are starting to feel the pinch

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:12 pm
by NewtonHawk11
Absolutely so. They are definitely feeling it quite a bit.

I've gone back and read that article with Fiona Hill about 3 times. Man, it's powerful, probably really accurate and quite scary. I guess I didn't realize the Russian span of life for men was shorter. 70 for Russian men is quite old. His appearance has declined, he's having issues with his body and he's gotten quite a bit puffy in the face which could mean some steroids to help. But he wants to accomplish a lot of stuff before he dies. Who knows how far away he is, but there is that aspect as well.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:22 pm
by sdoyel
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:55 am we both know that's not true.
This attitude will allow you to conveniently ignore the GOP agenda for the next 3 years.

Wake up.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:25 pm
by MICHHAWK
the democrats control our government. so the gop's agenda is meaningless.

Re: Let’s have a war!

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:32 pm
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:25 pm the democrats control our government. so the gop's agenda is meaningless.
That is one of the funnier things I have read today.