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Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:16 am
by ousdahl
Oh, and speaking of Afghanistan…

U.S. officials have also briefed Ukraine on the dangers of overextending its ambitions and spreading its troops too thin — the same warning Biden gave then-Afghan President Ashraf Ghani as the Taliban moved to sweep across the country during the U.S. military withdrawal in 2021.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/2 ... e-00093384

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:03 am
by DCHawk1
ousdahl wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:16 am Oh, and speaking of Afghanistan…

U.S. officials have also briefed Ukraine on the dangers of overextending its ambitions and spreading its troops too thin — the same warning Biden gave then-Afghan President Ashraf Ghani as the Taliban moved to sweep across the country during the U.S. military withdrawal in 2021.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/2 ... e-00093384
DCHawk1 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:57 pm Image

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:31 am
by ousdahl
Settle down, Qusdahl.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:56 am
by KUTradition
just out of curiosity, who exactly is “they” in that meme?

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:29 pm
by ousdahl
The deep state, duh!


(Assuming the deep state identifies as non-binary)

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:39 pm
by jfish26
Does this mean that…Budweiser has infringed on Thiel’s free speech? Or that Thiel’s free speech is infringing on Trump’s? I’m very confused.


Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:37 pm
by Sparko
DC a Tankie is unusual. Strange bedfellows and all that Mrs. Chomsky.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:46 pm
by Shirley
Peter Thiel, Venture catastrophist:

...Libertarianism, the political philosophy of a 19-year-old who’s just discovered Ayn Rand...

...By Friday morning it was over, and the feds had arrived to turn on the lights and close the bar. While they were working over the weekend to ring-fence the contagion and make SVB’s depositors whole, a new species of venture capitalist was born on Twitter: the Venture Catastrophist. The fear mongering’s stated intention was to drum up support for a federal bailout of SVB depositors — many of whom were the Catastrophists themselves.

There are no libertarians in foxholes.

...In sum, venture capital firms that have a vested interest in destabilizing the banking system and the dollar, via crypto investments, have morphed from Americans to agents of chaos. I believe Marc Andreessen or Peter Thiel could have stopped the run with one tweet. They chose not to...



Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:54 pm
by ousdahl
Sparko wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 1:37 pm DC a Tankie is unusual. Strange bedfellows and all that, that Mrs. Chomsky.
Isn’t a tankie someone who supports military intervention? specifically in the sense of when Stalin sent in Soviet forces to quash a fascist uprising in Hungary

DC strikes me more as just some realist who actually remembers things like Afghanistan (which ended embarrassingly, all of 6 months before the Ukraine war broke out, and was regarded at the time as some ding to the credibility of the US war machine); rather than abandoning any lessons that could have been learned from Afghanistan et al, in favor of doubling down on US war machine credibility and embracing the prescribed narratives about Ukraine.

But, I could be wrong. Feel free to correct me.

And, I promise I’m not trying to shitpost or to troll or anything in saying so…

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:00 pm
by ousdahl
And, in an effort to not get too war thready and to make it relevant here:

Does that Politico article seem to suggest Biden is concerned about what the whole Ukraine thing might do for him, or against him, in 2024?

Sounds like it largely kinda depends on how well Ukraine’s counter-offensive goes this spring…

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:03 pm
by DCHawk1
DC believes that successful foreign/military policy requires both phronesis AND sophia.

DC also believes that those two virtues have been inarguably absent from nearly all foreign policy debates and acts for 35 years or so.

"They" is the Uniparty -- the Bushes, the Cheneys, the Bidens, the Clintons, and the rest, who have never met a war they didn't want everyone else's kids to fight.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:18 pm
by Back2Lawrence
Serious question. Isn’t part of reason the US is so apt to find conflict is due to the economic machine in DC being funded, in great part, by the war machine?

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:44 pm
by PhDhawk
jfish26 wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 12:39 pm Does this mean that…Budweiser has infringed on Thiel’s free speech? Or that Thiel’s free speech is infringing on Trump’s? I’m very confused.

they were gonna die anyway.

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:30 pm
by ousdahl
Back2Lawrence wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:18 pm Serious question. Isn’t part of reason the US is so apt to find conflict is due to the economic machine in DC being funded, in great part, by the war machine?
“We used to manufacture weapons so we could fight wars. Now we manufacture wars so we can sell weapons.”

Re: 2024

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:15 pm
by japhy
DCHawk1 wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:03 pm DC believes that successful foreign/military policy requires both phronesis AND sophia.

Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:12 am
by randylahey

Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:37 am
by jfish26
Lala land.

Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:00 am
by RainbowsandUnicorns
randylahey wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:12 am
Joey Bag of Donuts?

This tweet is all I/you/anyone needs to know about him. Click on it if you can't read it in its entirety.


Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:14 am
by randylahey
Maybe pay attention to the thing being said instead of just the person saying it for once in your life lol. This is play #1 out of the liberal playbook. Brainwashing people into discrediting the person, attacking them personally, then it doesn't matter what they ever say

Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:16 am
by randylahey
Don't know Joey personally, just thought his one tweet and found it funny.

Maybe he's the smart one. Life long democrat that flipped. Despite what they have brainwashed you to believe, Trump is a decent person