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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:57 am
by TDub
sdoyel wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:53 am
Overlander wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:30 am
TDub wrote: Sun Jul 04, 2021 9:18 am

Assumptions are great for pushing your narrative and making you feel good abour yourself. Very Trumplike of you.

Hey, I am headed to the grocery store in a few minutes. Want me to grab you some tampons?
Or perhaps a dose of Pfizer?
Moderna. But ive already had 2 so im full. Thanks

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:35 pm
by sdoyel

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:22 am
by twocoach
Spent the weekend at the family farm in rural KS. A memorial service for my favorite aunt followed by a family reunion and 4th of July celebration. I was really worried about my youngest as she is too young to be vaccinated and I knew there were going to be a lot of people there who were at a higher risk of having covid. My cousin and her daughters weren't there as they were all sick at home with covid. I'll count myself fortunate that they had symptoms bad enough that they recognized they had it and stayed home.

I'd say that 90% of the rest of the people I was worried about being around stated that they had already had covid in the last year. Several of them were still fighting serious lung issues and were winded just walking a few dozen feet from the house to the tent outside where we had things set up. Turns out that a few of the family members who wanted to come had long term symptoms bad enough that they didn't risk making the trip.

The number of Trump flags in the local parade down Main Street was the highest number ever. The kid who looked like he was 10 years old on the ATV with a flag bearing a picture of Trump riding on a tank with an assault rifle in his arms was especially absurd. It was an even weirder weekend than I had expected but we had a lot of fun.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:14 pm
by sdoyel

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 pm
by sdoyel
twocoach wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:22 am Spent the weekend at the family farm in rural KS. A memorial service for my favorite aunt followed by a family reunion and 4th of July celebration. I was really worried about my youngest as she is too young to be vaccinated and I knew there were going to be a lot of people there who were at a higher risk of having covid. My cousin and her daughters weren't there as they were all sick at home with covid. I'll count myself fortunate that they had symptoms bad enough that they recognized they had it and stayed home.

I'd say that 90% of the rest of the people I was worried about being around stated that they had already had covid in the last year. Several of them were still fighting serious lung issues and were winded just walking a few dozen feet from the house to the tent outside where we had things set up. Turns out that a few of the family members who wanted to come had long term symptoms bad enough that they didn't risk making the trip.

The number of Trump flags in the local parade down Main Street was the highest number ever. The kid who looked like he was 10 years old on the ATV with a flag bearing a picture of Trump riding on a tank with an assault rifle in his arms was especially absurd. It was an even weirder weekend than I had expected but we had a lot of fun.
I’ll never understand the appeal of the Orange Man to rural, uneducated, poor Americans…

I visited a state park nearby my hometown and was driving through a rural countryside and passed by a dead tree that had red metal letters that read: “TRUMP”. Did I mention they were on a dead tree? A few miles later I passed a 1-car garage painted Orange with a black “01” on the side. Dukes of Hazard fans…

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:23 pm
by zsn
sdoyel wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:14 pm
How many anti “free-to-choose” bills has Crenshaw and his party voted for? Just in the last two years?

Oh, wait, women’s reproductive organs are not involved….carry on then.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:29 pm
by TDub
How bout women should have the right to choose AND the vaccine should be a choice.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:40 pm
by PhDhawk
I mean, of course it's an individual's choice to get vaccinated or not.

But saying that kinda suggests that both choices have equal merit. They don't.

You can choose whether or not to wipe your ass after you take a shit. But again there's a correct choice and an incorrect choice.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:49 am
by JKLivin
sdoyel wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:22 am Spent the weekend at the family farm in rural KS. A memorial service for my favorite aunt followed by a family reunion and 4th of July celebration. I was really worried about my youngest as she is too young to be vaccinated and I knew there were going to be a lot of people there who were at a higher risk of having covid. My cousin and her daughters weren't there as they were all sick at home with covid. I'll count myself fortunate that they had symptoms bad enough that they recognized they had it and stayed home.

I'd say that 90% of the rest of the people I was worried about being around stated that they had already had covid in the last year. Several of them were still fighting serious lung issues and were winded just walking a few dozen feet from the house to the tent outside where we had things set up. Turns out that a few of the family members who wanted to come had long term symptoms bad enough that they didn't risk making the trip.

The number of Trump flags in the local parade down Main Street was the highest number ever. The kid who looked like he was 10 years old on the ATV with a flag bearing a picture of Trump riding on a tank with an assault rifle in his arms was especially absurd. It was an even weirder weekend than I had expected but we had a lot of fun.
I’ll never understand the appeal of the Orange Man to rural, uneducated, poor Americans…

I visited a state park nearby my hometown and was driving through a rural countryside and passed by a dead tree that had red metal letters that read: “TRUMP”. Did I mention they were on a dead tree? A few miles later I passed a 1-car garage painted Orange with a black “01” on the side. Dukes of Hazard fans…
You guys do realize that ridiculing, belittling, and demeaning "those people" is the best possible way to make sure they keep doing the exact opposite of what you want, right? I still contend that Trump would never have been elected in the first place, save Hillary's "basket of deplorables" speech. That motivated the masses to vote whatever was the polar opposite of her views. Same principle at work here.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:53 am
by twocoach
TDub wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:29 pm How bout women should have the right to choose AND the vaccine should be a choice.
They aren't talking about forcing people to get vaccinated; just in making it easier to get vaccinated. If it is brought right to your door then there is no other excuse for anyone who wants a vaccination to not get one. Also, having a person there in person to answer any questions might help alleviate concerns someone may have.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:57 am
by twocoach
JKLivin wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:49 am
sdoyel wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:22 am Spent the weekend at the family farm in rural KS. A memorial service for my favorite aunt followed by a family reunion and 4th of July celebration. I was really worried about my youngest as she is too young to be vaccinated and I knew there were going to be a lot of people there who were at a higher risk of having covid. My cousin and her daughters weren't there as they were all sick at home with covid. I'll count myself fortunate that they had symptoms bad enough that they recognized they had it and stayed home.

I'd say that 90% of the rest of the people I was worried about being around stated that they had already had covid in the last year. Several of them were still fighting serious lung issues and were winded just walking a few dozen feet from the house to the tent outside where we had things set up. Turns out that a few of the family members who wanted to come had long term symptoms bad enough that they didn't risk making the trip.

The number of Trump flags in the local parade down Main Street was the highest number ever. The kid who looked like he was 10 years old on the ATV with a flag bearing a picture of Trump riding on a tank with an assault rifle in his arms was especially absurd. It was an even weirder weekend than I had expected but we had a lot of fun.
I’ll never understand the appeal of the Orange Man to rural, uneducated, poor Americans…

I visited a state park nearby my hometown and was driving through a rural countryside and passed by a dead tree that had red metal letters that read: “TRUMP”. Did I mention they were on a dead tree? A few miles later I passed a 1-car garage painted Orange with a black “01” on the side. Dukes of Hazard fans…
You guys do realize that ridiculing, belittling, and demeaning "those people" is the best possible way to make sure they keep doing the exact opposite of what you want, right? I still contend that Trump would never have been elected in the first place, save Hillary's "basket of deplorables" speech. That motivated the masses to vote whatever was the polar opposite of her views. Same principle at work here.
BS. That's the same victim mentality that Trumpers whine about everyone else having. Plus, I have never ever seen anyone stop being a dumbass simply because no one was pointing out what a dumbass they are any more. It doesn't actually happen so I reject your theory that it is why this happened. There is zero actual evidence to support your claim.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:57 am
by Deleted User 89
JKLivin wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:49 am
sdoyel wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 pm
twocoach wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 9:22 am Spent the weekend at the family farm in rural KS. A memorial service for my favorite aunt followed by a family reunion and 4th of July celebration. I was really worried about my youngest as she is too young to be vaccinated and I knew there were going to be a lot of people there who were at a higher risk of having covid. My cousin and her daughters weren't there as they were all sick at home with covid. I'll count myself fortunate that they had symptoms bad enough that they recognized they had it and stayed home.

I'd say that 90% of the rest of the people I was worried about being around stated that they had already had covid in the last year. Several of them were still fighting serious lung issues and were winded just walking a few dozen feet from the house to the tent outside where we had things set up. Turns out that a few of the family members who wanted to come had long term symptoms bad enough that they didn't risk making the trip.

The number of Trump flags in the local parade down Main Street was the highest number ever. The kid who looked like he was 10 years old on the ATV with a flag bearing a picture of Trump riding on a tank with an assault rifle in his arms was especially absurd. It was an even weirder weekend than I had expected but we had a lot of fun.
I’ll never understand the appeal of the Orange Man to rural, uneducated, poor Americans…

I visited a state park nearby my hometown and was driving through a rural countryside and passed by a dead tree that had red metal letters that read: “TRUMP”. Did I mention they were on a dead tree? A few miles later I passed a 1-car garage painted Orange with a black “01” on the side. Dukes of Hazard fans…
You guys do realize that ridiculing, belittling, and demeaning "those people" is the best possible way to make sure they keep doing the exact opposite of what you want, right? I still contend that Trump would never have been elected in the first place, save Hillary's "basket of deplorables" speech. That motivated the masses to vote whatever was the polar opposite of her views. Same principle at work here.
hahahaha

blaming ignorance and being inconsiderate of one’s neighbors/community is nobody’s fault other than those exhibiting those characteristics

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:02 am
by ousdahl
The problem isn’t the deplorable behavior, so much as it is the other folks who call out the behavior as deplorable.

The audacity!

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:04 am
by TDub
twocoach wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:53 am
TDub wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:29 pm How bout women should have the right to choose AND the vaccine should be a choice.
They aren't talking about forcing people to get vaccinated; just in making it easier to get vaccinated. If it is brought right to your door then there is no other excuse for anyone who wants a vaccination to not get one. Also, having a person there in person to answer any questions might help alleviate concerns someone may have.
How fucking weird is it for the them to go door to door to push a vaccine? Look man, i got the vaccine....but that is weird weird shit.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:05 am
by MICHHAWK
i would turn the sprinklers on them.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:07 am
by ousdahl
That is kind of intense. I’d be weirded out if somebody came to my door trying to stick me, but I’m also afraid of needles either way.

The problem isn’t necessarily access to vaccines, it’s the misinformation.

For the conspiracy theorists, it’s prob just fuel for the fire.

I heard the best way to disarm them is to have trusted and familiar medical doctors talk to them about it. But I dunno if the family doctor is the one going door to door.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:07 am
by ousdahl
MICHHAWK wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:05 am i would turn the sprinklers on them.
so much for more vaccines for mich

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:09 am
by MICHHAWK
when i want more vaccine i will come to them.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:13 am
by TDub
ousdahl wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:07 am That is kind of intense. I’d be weirded out if somebody came to my door trying to stick me, but I’m also afraid of needles either way.

The problem isn’t necessarily access to vaccines, it’s the misinformation.

For the conspiracy theorists, it’s prob just fuel for the fire.

I heard the best way to disarm them is to have trusted and familiar medical doctors talk to them about it. But I dunno if the family doctor is the one going door to door.
It certainly wouldnt alleviate my concerns to have a salesman come door to door pushing a product.

And yes, it is pouring gas on lobsters smoldering world.

Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:29 am
by JKLivin
twocoach wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:57 am
JKLivin wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:49 am
sdoyel wrote: Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:17 pm

I’ll never understand the appeal of the Orange Man to rural, uneducated, poor Americans…

I visited a state park nearby my hometown and was driving through a rural countryside and passed by a dead tree that had red metal letters that read: “TRUMP”. Did I mention they were on a dead tree? A few miles later I passed a 1-car garage painted Orange with a black “01” on the side. Dukes of Hazard fans…
You guys do realize that ridiculing, belittling, and demeaning "those people" is the best possible way to make sure they keep doing the exact opposite of what you want, right? I still contend that Trump would never have been elected in the first place, save Hillary's "basket of deplorables" speech. That motivated the masses to vote whatever was the polar opposite of her views. Same principle at work here.
BS. That's the same victim mentality that Trumpers whine about everyone else having. Plus, I have never ever seen anyone stop being a dumbass simply because no one was pointing out what a dumbass they are any more. It doesn't actually happen so I reject your theory that it is why this happened. There is zero actual evidence to support your claim.
You are acting as if dumbassery is an objective construct, when, in reality, it is incredibly subjective. You labeling it as such does not make it so in reality. People believe what they believe and do what they do for reasons that make sense to them. Until we recognize that, we will continue to have a stark divide in this country.