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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:38 pm
by TDub
Its not all that stunning. In fact, its kind of predicted yea?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:50 pm
by Deleted User 863
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:38 pm
Its not all that stunning. In fact, its kind of predicted yea?
Wonder what the annual flu shot graphic would look like? My guess is sort of similar.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:51 pm
by twocoach
MICHHAWK wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:20 am
this vaccine hasn't been approved by whoever approves vaccines. so i can understand if someone is leery. i can understand if someone has questions.
I agree that might hold a few people back but I doubt that being an emergency approval vs. a full approval is the hurdle for more than a few percent of the unvaccinated.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:52 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:50 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:38 pm
Its not all that stunning. In fact, its kind of predicted yea?
Wonder what the annual flu shot graphic would look like? My guess is sort of similar.
I doubt it is so split by party lines. I have never gotten a flu vaccine in my life but I got the covid vaccine.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:53 pm
by ousdahl
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:50 pm
TDub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:38 pm
Its not all that stunning. In fact, its kind of predicted yea?
Wonder what the annual flu shot graphic would look like? My guess is sort of similar.
Without searching too far, it appears so
https://advisorsmith.com/data/states-wi ... ion-rates/
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:54 pm
by ousdahl
But yeah, it’s prob not so split by party lines,
Might have something to do with *checks notes* the president never politicizing the flu shot
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:00 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:54 pm
But yeah, it’s prob not so split by party lines,
Might have something to do with *checks notes* the president never politicizing the flu shot
I don't remember him politicizing the shot itself....just covid as a whole.
Although Trump has been gone for quite a while and covid is still being politicized. So it's not just Trump doing it.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:03 pm
by Deleted User 89
definitely NOT along party lines...just look at the dakotas
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:04 pm
by Deleted User 89
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:00 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:54 pm
But yeah, it’s prob not so split by party lines,
Might have something to do with *checks notes* the president never politicizing the flu shot
I don't remember him politicizing the shot itself....just covid as a whole.
Although Trump has been gone for quite a while and covid is still being politicized. So it's not just Trump doing it.
politicized by whom?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:08 pm
by jfish26
This go here?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:09 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:04 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:00 pm
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:54 pm
But yeah, it’s prob not so split by party lines,
Might have something to do with *checks notes* the president never politicizing the flu shot
I don't remember him politicizing the shot itself....just covid as a whole.
Although Trump has been gone for quite a while and covid is still being politicized. So it's not just Trump doing it.
politicized by whom?
Media. Politicians. Nearly everyone?
You don't agree that a tweet showing how "republican" states aren't "vaccinated enough" is politicizing covid/the vaccine?
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:11 pm
by ousdahl
Trump was politicizing covid from the start, treating it like it was not a health pandemic but a scorned mistress that just needed to be hushed.
Then he politicized by casting doubt on the severity of the virus, the legitimacy of the experts, generally acting like it was just some plot to make him look bad, etc.
And then he politicized mask wearing.
And perhaps he didn’t position himself as explicitly anti-vax. But considering the aforesaid positions, combined with him doing little to publicly advocate for the vax while he received it himself…
He just generally set the stage for the divisiveness of it all, inviting misinformation over facts, etc.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:13 pm
by ousdahl
jfish26 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:08 pm
This go here?
Among other takeaways, man how does Tucker Carlson always have that expression that looks like he just walked into an elevator and smelled a fart
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:13 pm
by pdub
I'd say the biggest risk is exponentially themselves ( who dont get vaccinated ) and the risk to those vaccinated is very slim now.
There is a point where those vaccinated should accept those who dont. Not approve or agree but accept.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:14 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:11 pm
Trump was politicizing covid from the start, treating it like it was not a health pandemic but a scorned mistress that just needed to be hushed.
Then he politicized by casting doubt on the severity of the virus, the legitimacy of the experts, generally acting like it was just some plot to make him look bad, etc.
And then he politicized mask wearing.
And perhaps he didn’t position himself as explicitly anti-vax. But considering the aforesaid positions, combined with him doing little to publicly advocate for the vax while he received it himself…
He just generally set the stage for the divisiveness of it all, inviting misinformation over facts, etc.
I agree with all of that.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:30 pm
by Deleted User 89
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:09 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:04 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:00 pm
I don't remember him politicizing the shot itself....just covid as a whole.
Although Trump has been gone for quite a while and covid is still being politicized. So it's not just Trump doing it.
politicized by whom?
Media. Politicians. Nearly everyone?
You don't agree that a tweet showing how "republican" states aren't "vaccinated enough" is politicizing covid/the vaccine?
not at all in the same sense that calling covid a democratic hoax is
surely you can see the difference
in this example, one is literally just stating the facts. the other was literally making shit up about the other party exclusively for political gain
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:38 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:09 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:04 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:00 pm
I don't remember him politicizing the shot itself....just covid as a whole.
Although Trump has been gone for quite a while and covid is still being politicized. So it's not just Trump doing it.
politicized by whom?
Media. Politicians. Nearly everyone?
You don't agree that a tweet showing how "republican" states aren't "vaccinated enough" is politicizing covid/the vaccine?
No, it isn't. It's reporting on the differences between states and what likely drives it.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:39 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:30 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:09 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:04 pm
politicized by whom?
Media. Politicians. Nearly everyone?
You don't agree that a tweet showing how "republican" states aren't "vaccinated enough" is politicizing covid/the vaccine?
not at all in the same sense that calling covid a democratic hoax is
surely you can see the difference
in this example, one is literally just stating the facts. the other was literally making shit up about the other party exclusively for political gain
I see/understand the differences in how/why each side is politicizing covid.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:41 pm
by twocoach
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:13 pm
I'd say the biggest risk is exponentially themselves ( who dont get vaccinated ) and the risk to those vaccinated is very slim now.
There is a point where those vaccinated should accept those who dont. Not approve or agree but accept.
All I heard was "vaccinated people with kids under the age of 12 should just accept the fact that some people suck and to continue to keep their kids masked and away from gatherings indoors for the foreseeable future because the stupid people will never stop being stupid".
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:42 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:38 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:09 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:04 pm
politicized by whom?
Media. Politicians. Nearly everyone?
You don't agree that a tweet showing how "republican" states aren't "vaccinated enough" is politicizing covid/the vaccine?
No, it isn't. It's reporting on the differences between states and what likely drives it.
All those damn Republicans not getting vaccinated.
That's politicizing covid/the vaccine and will result in no positive change in vaccine hesitancy or covid outlook in general.
Especially when other segements of the population who are also not "vaccinated enough" are overlooked or are not being vilified nearly as much (right or wrong).