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Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:43 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:39 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:30 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:09 pm
Media. Politicians. Nearly everyone?
You don't agree that a tweet showing how "republican" states aren't "vaccinated enough" is politicizing covid/the vaccine?
not at all in the same sense that calling covid a democratic hoax is
surely you can see the difference
in this example, one is literally just stating the facts. the other was literally making shit up about the other party exclusively for political gain
I see/understand the differences in how/why each side is politicizing covid.
Reporting on the politics that are obviously affecting the difference in vaccination rates isn't "politicizing covid".
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:43 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:41 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:13 pm
I'd say the biggest risk is exponentially themselves ( who dont get vaccinated ) and the risk to those vaccinated is very slim now.
There is a point where those vaccinated should accept those who dont. Not approve or agree but accept.
All I heard was "vaccinated people with kids under the age of 12 should just accept the fact that some people suck and to continue to keep their kids masked and away from gatherings indoors for the foreseeable future because the stupid people will never stop being stupid".
It's not just about you.
Your rights don't supercede their rights...and forced vaccination is not something i am on board with for something like covid.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:44 pm
by Deleted User 863
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:43 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:39 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:30 pm
not at all in the same sense that calling covid a democratic hoax is
surely you can see the difference
in this example, one is literally just stating the facts. the other was literally making shit up about the other party exclusively for political gain
I see/understand the differences in how/why each side is politicizing covid.
Reporting on the politics that are obviously affecting the difference in vaccination rates isn't "politicizing covid".
Yes it is.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:44 pm
by ousdahl
It’s the DC racism logic 2.0:
The issue is not those who refuse to get vaccinated, but those who report data that those who refuse to get vaccinated are, in fact, unvaccinated.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:45 pm
by Deleted User 863
ousdahl wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:44 pm
It’s the DC racism logic 2.0:
The issue is not those who refuse to get vaccinated, but those who report data that those who refuse to get vaccinated are, in fact, unvaccinated.
No.
And nobody is saying that.
I am vaccinated. I think people should get vaccinated....but if they don't that's okay too... and when possible i will not be around those type of people.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:46 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:42 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:38 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:09 pm
Media. Politicians. Nearly everyone?
You don't agree that a tweet showing how "republican" states aren't "vaccinated enough" is politicizing covid/the vaccine?
No, it isn't. It's reporting on the differences between states and what likely drives it.
All those damn Republicans not getting vaccinated.
That's politicizing covid/the vaccine and will result in no positive change in vaccine hesitancy or covid outlook in general.
Especially when other segements of the population who are also not "vaccinated enough" are overlooked or are not being vilified nearly as much (right or wrong).
What WILL make a difference?
Nothing. Because the vast majority of unvaccinated people.are unvaccinated for primarily political reasons.
And I have no idea what point you were making with you last paragraph.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:47 pm
by twocoach
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:43 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:41 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:13 pm
I'd say the biggest risk is exponentially themselves ( who dont get vaccinated ) and the risk to those vaccinated is very slim now.
There is a point where those vaccinated should accept those who dont. Not approve or agree but accept.
All I heard was "vaccinated people with kids under the age of 12 should just accept the fact that some people suck and to continue to keep their kids masked and away from gatherings indoors for the foreseeable future because the stupid people will never stop being stupid".
It's not just about you.
Your rights don't supercede their rights...and forced vaccination is not something i am on board with for something like covid.
I have seen zero efforts to force vaccinations. This is about the deliberate misinformation campaign and politicization efforts to make vaccinations seem like a loss of liberty and freedom, while actively lying about the facts.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:54 pm
by Deleted User 89
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:39 pm
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:30 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:09 pm
Media. Politicians. Nearly everyone?
You don't agree that a tweet showing how "republican" states aren't "vaccinated enough" is politicizing covid/the vaccine?
not at all in the same sense that calling covid a democratic hoax is
surely you can see the difference
in this example, one is literally just stating the facts. the other was literally making shit up about the other party exclusively for political gain
I see/understand the differences in how/why each side is politicizing covid.
again, which politicians are doing it now?
i couldn’t care less if media does it, since their job isn’t to look out for the well-being of this country’s citizens
all i’m asking for are actual examples of politicians on both sides “politicizing“ this...and they have to be equally egregious for your statement to hold any water
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:55 pm
by Deleted User 89
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:43 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:41 pm
pdub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:13 pm
I'd say the biggest risk is exponentially themselves ( who dont get vaccinated ) and the risk to those vaccinated is very slim now.
There is a point where those vaccinated should accept those who dont. Not approve or agree but accept.
All I heard was "vaccinated people with kids under the age of 12 should just accept the fact that some people suck and to continue to keep their kids masked and away from gatherings indoors for the foreseeable future because the stupid people will never stop being stupid".
It's not just about you.
Your rights don't supercede their rights...and forced vaccination is not something i am on board with for something like covid.
nobody is being forced, lobs
jfc
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:59 pm
by Deleted User 89
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:46 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:42 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:38 pm
No, it isn't. It's reporting on the differences between states and what likely drives it.
All those damn Republicans not getting vaccinated.
That's politicizing covid/the vaccine and will result in no positive change in vaccine hesitancy or covid outlook in general.
Especially when other segements of the population who are also not "vaccinated enough" are overlooked or are not being vilified nearly as much (right or wrong).
What WILL make a difference?
Nothing.
Because the vast majority of unvaccinated people.are unvaccinated for primarily political reasons.
And I have no idea what point you were making with you last paragraph.
this wrong
access to vaccines is the primary reason for the current low rates of vaccination, particularly in minority communities
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:01 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:54 pm
they have to be equally egregious
Shocker.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:03 pm
by Deleted User 89
both-sides-do-it doesn’t work otherwise, numbnuts
equating things aren’t equal is just silly
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:03 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:55 pm
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:43 pm
twocoach wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:41 pm
All I heard was "vaccinated people with kids under the age of 12 should just accept the fact that some people suck and to continue to keep their kids masked and away from gatherings indoors for the foreseeable future because the stupid people will never stop being stupid".
It's not just about you.
Your rights don't supercede their rights...and forced vaccination is not something i am on board with for something like covid.
nobody is being forced, lobs
jfc
Deep breaths buddy. I didn't say anyone was being forced....but some of you sound dangerously close to declaring that they should be forced.
But maybe you telling them how they're stupid Republicans will convince them to have a change of heart. LOL
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:04 pm
by Deleted User 863
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:03 pm
both-sides-do-it doesn’t work otherwise, numbnuts
equating things aren’t equal is just silly
LOL
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:05 pm
by Deleted User 89
“forced vaccination is not something i am on board with”
why post this then?
nobody here, at least that i’m aware of, supports forced vaccinations
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:06 pm
by MICHHAWK
vaccination rates today are low because anybody that wanted to get the vaccine has gotten the vaccine.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:06 pm
by Deleted User 89
oh hooray...more ignorance!!
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:14 pm
by Deleted User 863
I am vaccinated.
I don't look down my nose at those who are choosing not to get vaccinated.
This isn't that hard.
Being a nice person shouldn't be that hard.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:18 pm
by MICHHAWK
BasketballJayhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:14 pm
Being a nice person shouldn't be that hard.
it is for those on the fringes. the radicals. which is what makes up most of what posts on this site. the loonies.
Re: COVID-19 - On the Ground
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:22 pm
by MICHHAWK
TraditionKU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:06 pm
oh hooray...more ignorance!!
this is straight out of the "how to win friends and influence others" handbook.